Oh I'm not saying Apple doesn't have great products. They do. My friend has a loaded macbook. What you can do with media with absolutely amazing, my brother's band recorded their songs through a board into his mac, and it produced near-studio quality sound. I simply loathe their business practices and how they treat their customers in regards to the pricing. I'm also mad that the 30 gig IPOD didn't come with a wall charger. :P