...And The World Thinks Our Guys Are Bad

[birdgirl73]

well, give me a nationaly brodcasted television show and i'll be happy... I'm pissed cause someone with my pov isn't heard, but if I loved God and said it in God's name I'd be on TV and a holy man...

I'm sorry I've offended you but like I say in all my post they aren't meant to be personal... perhaps you should show me where I've attacked someone, or stated anything that cannot be backed up with factual information... I'd be happy to retract that statment and apoligize for it.

thanks and god bless right?

No, no! You've not offended me at all. And you're never atacked someone. In fact, you're quite well mannered and articulate, which is a lot more than I can say for many others. I just have at times regarded your views on things as rather extreme. Particularly on the 9/11 matter. I understand and have read your facts, but I just can't agree on on that having been an inside job.

I was actually being rather facetious about the Pat Robertson similarities. You at least have facts, even if others don't always believe them, to back up your views. Poor Pat attributes his "teachings" to the voice of God. So forgive me if you thought I meant you've offended me or attacked anyone. You've actually proven quite entertaining! I'm one of those who's secure enough in my own ideas and intelligence that I like the read the opposing viewpoints.

[Gumby]

thanks for clearing that up... am glad that I didn't offend you as that is never my intentions on here... I am I guess like you, assurd with my beliefs, or most of them... I know my arrogance does get the better of me from time to time and sometimes I don't control it... just glad you didn't find offense to anything and that nothing was taken personally...

as for 9/11... i didn't/couldn't believe it either... even laughed at those who thought it was inside job... but I didn't think that was the reason you were upset or said what you did. I forget it's in my sig under every post and don't relate it to the post most of the time... If you'd like to discuss it and talk about it i'd be more than happy to... there is an abundance of post about it already though... and if you have any oposing views I'd love to hear them...

so far Bong and psycho have been the only two who really try to defend the terrorist theory, and talking to them is no better than a wall... so please, if you have any information about 9/11 that isn't here or that you'd like to talk about I'd be more than happy...


You saying I was the same a Pat scared the shit out of me and I hope that I never appear to be as ignorant and full of hate as he does. I'm relieved to see that you don't think I am like him or that my 'teachings' aren't coming from some voice in my head and I actually think about it and soucre for facts... take care and sorry for the confusion...

ps... if we all agreed on everything, this wouldn't be america...

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

"I was thought to be 'stuck up.' I wasn't. I was just sure of myself. This is and always has been an unforgivable quality to the unsure."

Bette Davis (1908 - 1989), The Lonely Life, 1962

[beachguy in thongs]

"Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals--the two things seem to go together."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/21/93 (does that mean he is gay?? cause I'm pretty sure he just called Bush's grandpappy a FAG.... )

Did Bush's Grandfather follow Hitler or Satan? I'm not sure where you got that from.

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

Well, do they?

"The public education movement has also been an anti-Christian movement...We can change education in America if you put Christian principles in and Christian pedagogy in. In three years, you would totally revolutionize education in America." --Pat Robertson,"The 700 Club," September 27, 1993.

Yeah, you'd definitely revolutionize it. That's for sure.

"If anybody understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies in a country that favors freedom and equality. ... Can you imagine having the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as defense minister, or Mahatma Gandhi as minister of health, education, and welfare? The Hindu and Buddhist idea of karma and the Muslim idea of kismet, or fate condemn the poor and the disabled to their suffering. ... It's the will of Allah. These beliefs are nothing but abject fatalism, and they would devastate the social gains this nation has made if they were ever put into practice." --Pat Robertson's "The New World Order," page 219.

Hmmm. That's interesting. I don't know how passive the government would be if they were in charge. I took Religious Studies, not of a particular religion.

"I am bound by the laws of the United States and all 50 states...I am not bound by any case or any court to which I myself am not a party...I don't think the Congress of the United States is subservient to the courts...They can ignore a Supreme Court ruling if they so choose."--Pat Robertson, Washington Post, June 27,1986)

Not much to say about that one. Except, "I, too, am bound by the laws of the United States and all 50 states...I was not involved in the case of Marijuana Prohibition...I should be granted the same immunity as the Supreme Court, in this case."

"How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy money changers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?"--Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p.227

How can Our government find the time to legalize Marijuana, a process that would have to overturn an eighty-year law, when terrorists, at home and abroad, are demanding the attention of everyone, intentionally or unintentionally?

"There is no such thing as separation of church and state in the Constitution. It is a lie of the Left and we are not going to take it anymore." --Pat Robertson, November 1993 during an address to the American Center for Law and Justice

That's news to me.

^ that's my favorite... and remember this is the guy that owns his own tv station that is on 24/7... he was also the same fucker who ran for president... yah... great idea to go around the world to take a dictator out of power, when amerika blasts his Nazi propaganda 24/7 on cable tv... i think it's time we stop bitching about other countries and thier religious practices before the most famous preacher in amerika.

Hey, the guy believes in the "original" constitution. Back when Life was peaceful, for us pot-smokers.