even with rooney and owen, england won't make it past the quarterfinals. I wouldn't put it past them to blow a game or two and not advance out of the group stage. England's style of play doesn't really favor well in the international level. Just look at ALL those early round exits in years past. I mean I love a lot of the players, but they don't really click all too well as a team, and it shows. My boy Sol will show up to play though.