Quote Originally Posted by Hollandica
If you download music the computer you "steal" it from is still able to listen the music himself too, if I was to steal somebody's banana only I would have the banana and not him (or her)
True, but that was not what I was referring to exactly. You are stealing from those who produced the album, from the artist, etc. They are losing profits because of your actions so it is legitimately stealing. So there IS a loss.