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	05-25-2006, 02:56 AM #1 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 i kinda liked thismy wife sent it to me.... it was forwarded from about 200-300 people 
 
 Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone
 
 YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !! Will we still be the Country of choice and still be AMERICA if we continue tomake the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in AMERICA because it is the Country of Choice? ? ?
 
 Think about it!
 
 All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?
 
 
 I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..........we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.
 
 It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?
 
 We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.
 This says it all!
 
 This is an editorial written by an
 American citizen, published in a
 Tampa newspaper.
 
 He did quite a job; didn't he?
 
 Read on, please!
 
 IMMIGRANTS,
 NOT AMERICANS,
 MUST ADAPT.
 
 
 I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
 of Americans. However...... the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
 
 I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America.
 Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants.
 However, there
 are a few things that those
 who have recently come to
 our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
 This idea of America being a
 multicultural community
 has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans......
 we have our own culture, our
 own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
 
 We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
 Therefore, if you wish to become part
 of our society, learn the language!
 
 "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women......on Christian Principles.............
 founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
 It is certainly appropriate to display it
 on the walls of our schools.
 If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the worl d as
 your new home.........because
 God is part of our culture.
 
 If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
 you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
 should seriously consider a move
 to another part of this planet.
 
 WE are happy with our culture and have
 no desire to change, and we really
 don't care how you did things where
 you came from.
 
 
 This is
 OUR COUNTRY,
 our land, and our lifestyle.
 
 
 Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we
 will allow you every opportunity to do so!
 
 
 But once you are done complaining....... whining...... and griping.......
 
 about our flag....... our pledge......
 
 our national motto........or our
 way of life....
 
 I highly encourage you to
 take advantage of one other
 
 Great American Freedom......
 
 THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
 
 
 AMEN:thumbsup:Bong30 Reviewed by Bong30 on . i kinda liked this my wife sent it to me.... it was forwarded from about 200-300 people Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !! Will we still be the Country of choice and still be AMERICA if we continue tomake the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in AMERICA because it is the Country of Choice? ? ? Think about it! All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? Rating: 5
 
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	05-25-2006, 03:57 PM #2 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisI thought I posted this earlier..anyway..please tell your wife thanks for sharing that..sums up how more than a few around here feel about that issue.:thumbsup: [SIZE=\"2\"][/SIZE]
 
 If Tyranny & Oppression come to this land,it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
 
 James Madison 4th U.S. President (1751-1836)
 
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	05-25-2006, 05:13 PM #3 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisyou guys need to read your bible again... and perhaps educate yourselves in a few other areas as well... 
 
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	05-25-2006, 05:20 PM #4 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked this Originally Posted by Gumby Originally Posted by Gumby
 yo gumster, sup? what exactly are you meaning when you say they should read their bibles again? i'm currently reading the da vinci code series for the first time (yeh yeh i know, very surprising....) and this should be good.
 
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	05-25-2006, 06:03 PM #5 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisthe bible is only 4 of the 31 know gospels first of all... so they should also read more than just the bible... 
 
 but christianity, the way that post infers, is flawed from the foundation... there is no where in the bible where it tells you to build a church, have preachers, popes, bishops or anything of that matter... that Church is a sin in itself...
 
 "The Kingdom of God is all Around us look under a rock and you will find him split a piece of wood and he'll be there"
 
 the church was created and used for power... that's it...
 
 their beliefs from the bible that they need to read again...
 
 chirstmas... a pagan holiday... learn history...
 
 "the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others."
 
 it's the religious right, the same people who are passing this email around who want the censure the media and the words that are allowed to be said. It is/was the chruch that created cursed words... and the only reason some words aren't allowed to be said... like, shit - piss - fuck - cunt - cock sucker - mother fucker - and tits (carlin is god )... but the words were only profane because they weren't used in the house of the lord... but it was a lot more than the selective censuring amerika is using.  It's being hypocrytical to want your God and Idols spread around, breaking on of the Ten Commandments, and want to be rightous at the same time... )... but the words were only profane because they weren't used in the house of the lord... but it was a lot more than the selective censuring amerika is using.  It's being hypocrytical to want your God and Idols spread around, breaking on of the Ten Commandments, and want to be rightous at the same time...
 
 "4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"
 
 Why fight for something that is breaking a commandment??
 
 
 "We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
 Therefore, if you wish to become part
 of our society, learn the language!"
 
 that's just ignorance... we're the only country who thinks it's ok to only know one language... it's not called a national language it's called being too stupid to learn another languange... same reason all the stupid amerikans that travel think the world is stupid cause they don't know english... we're not that great and our language isn't unique... perhaps you should learn that english came from spainish and that it plays a large roll in how we talk.. that's just ignorance and nothing to do with the bible
 
 
 " "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women......on Christian Principles.............
 founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented. "
 
 that's just stupid... find the word God, Christ, or anything christian in the Declaration or Consitution... it's not there... for the main reason they didn't want the church involved in politics...
 
 In God We Trust wasn't from our forfathers either... that's just ignorance...
 
 "From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861."
 
 our country was foudned 100 year prior...
 
 I don't really know what more you were looking for... ask questions if you feel like it, I love getting high and thinking about religion and how fucked up it is...
 
 here are a few quotes from our founding fathers, perhaps they'll help get a better understanding of this country as it was founded...
 
 A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.
 Thomas Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774
 
 All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
 Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
 
 And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever.
 Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 18, 1781
 
 But if we are to be told by a foreign Power ... what we shall do, and what we shall not do, we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.
 George Washington, letter to Alexander Hamilton, May 8, 1796
 
 Citizens by birth or choice of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations.
 George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796
 
 Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
 George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796
 
 A nation under a well regulated government, should permit none to remain uninstructed. It is monarchical and aristocratical government only that requires ignorance for its support.
 Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1792
 
 But where says some is the King of America? I'll tell you Friend, he reigns above, and doth not make havoc of mankind like the Royal Brute of Britain...let it be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America THE LAW IS KING.
 Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
 
 If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.
 Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
 
 The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind.
 Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
 
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	05-25-2006, 06:24 PM #6 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisI read my bible every day Originally Posted by Gumby Originally Posted by Gumby And continue my education every day And continue my education every day Thanks for the advice..though I refuse to "debate" religion on here..Im not Jesus Christ..no where near him..but I do have faith.:thumbsup:
						[SIZE=\"2\"][/SIZE] Thanks for the advice..though I refuse to "debate" religion on here..Im not Jesus Christ..no where near him..but I do have faith.:thumbsup:
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 If Tyranny & Oppression come to this land,it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
 
 James Madison 4th U.S. President (1751-1836)
 
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	05-25-2006, 06:39 PM #7 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisshelbay, I believe that everyone has the right to believe and practice what they choose... and I do not think that a person should change their faith or beliefs if they understand them... 
 
 
 But when ignorance and blind faith come into play I cannot stand it. I do not know what you believe and don't want this to be feel like a personal attack either... I was only pointing out the flaws of the first post and how it claims to be of christian faith.
 
 That letter is not of christian faith and makes a joke of the teachings of Jesus... and I am a believer in Jesus and Faith as much as you are. Just because I think the Church has ruined religion and don't follow that type of religion doesn't mean I don't think you should worship or practice the way you do...
 
 But that is not Christian and I will defend my faith in Jesus just like you will... I'd just suggest reading more things about his life than what has been selectivly chosen to be in the bible (you don't really think King James was alive and hung out with that white jesus do you??)
 
 
 
 I don't think religion is debated when it talked about... I think it is only debated because one person isn't assurd of thier own religion. Otherwise it's only a discussion, because we should be able to believe in different things. It's the Church that has caused 'debate' in religion, mainly because people who follow that faith aren't assurd with it... they mistake 'faith' with 'blind following' ... faith comes after knowing what you believe not while you're trying to figure it out.
 
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	05-25-2006, 07:02 PM #8 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisGumby..I used to worry about "quoting" the bible..but I did learn that satan can quote it word for word..I just do what feels right..I go with my heart and occasionally I use my brain cells..Thanks for explaining your post..I really comprehend better when an issue is summarized..not all people think alike you know..may be why I come off wrong sometimes..my brain just goes and goes lol..so its a challenge to even read yours and ph's posts sometimes..but I enjoy the different people on here..just don't make me think so hard! lol:thumbsup: [SIZE=\"2\"][/SIZE]
 
 If Tyranny & Oppression come to this land,it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
 
 James Madison 4th U.S. President (1751-1836)
 
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	05-25-2006, 08:08 PM #9 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisGumby, your confusing the Catholic Philosophy with the rest of Christianity. 
 
 And yes..there are only 4 Gospels, the other books that arent in the Bible, arent there for a reason
 
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	05-25-2006, 10:47 PM #10 Senior Member Senior Member
 i kinda liked thisno they were left out on purpose... the rest of 'christianity' has taken all of it's pratices and beliefs from the Catholic Church... 
 
 what is your reason for the other gospels to not be included?? the first four aren't any more important than the rest... there are only four included in the bible because they are the ones that fit the churchs goals best... look into history it's all pretty well recorded and/or discovered by now... it's just 'chirsitians' still believe in the fatal, ignorant idea that they are right because god is on thier side so they don't question thier belief in the 'god' they 'know' they question the people around thier god or a different god... question your own belief of who/what 'god' is and you'll see that Christians, a majority of them, believe in the catholic idea and wrong idea of God.
 
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