Hey Gumby..I tried respecting you and your beliefs but its obvious you don'y know the meaning of that word..anymore than you know me or my religion okay..so concerning your "f**k off"..we are stupid and other words you choose to describe people you don't have a clue about and no money to buy any..why don't we just take this to the religion forum? Then I will debate you on religion..just for you! Stupidity as you call it does not merge with a persons religion and beliefs..your full of hate..thats your burden okay..but I assure you..my belief in God is not a threat to you so why even keep on with calling me stupid etc for what I believe..that is a censorship attitude at its best..my word for you would be hypocritical..try being like Breukelen..he doesn't make his beliefs personal..he just makes his way known. And about the white Jesus issue..YOU brought that into the convo..and seeing as Jesus was a Jew..makes me wonder about you and your real hate..not being mean..but you really hate America and anyone that is not like you..that is imo leaning more toward nazi practice than my belief in my God would ever be. When you want to take it to the religion forum..give me 24 hour notice with a date and time and we will continue this..if you have it in you? I usually make a point not to do that to keep from being labeled as trying to force my beliefs on non believers but seeing as you can hold your own lets take this to religion..you have the right to be a non believer and I have the right to defend and offend if need be okay. And the humble part..I have no problem being humble..what is it to you or Robert Louis Stevenson what makes my life full? If Jesus and God do it for me..what is your problem with it?? Through with this issue on this thread.:smokin: