this is the enemy...

[Gumby]

my idea of a change isn't to get a new figure head in office... my 'idea' of change is a whole new way of life... much like the Republicans had a goal in 94 to change america as a whole and not just put someone in office... I think america needs to forget about Regan's theories, they were bush sr.'s anyways...

I think america needs to learn from the people we stole this land from... we need to have state leaders with just as much power as the president... we need to forget about corparations all together... we need to stop thinking that it should be someone's life goal to go to school and get a job.

We need a massive education change in america as well as an idology of how we as humans act... so until that in itself changes, I don't really care who is the puppet in office..

but, to give you a name or two... I like the things Durbin has said in the past few months... I think he cares about the earth, which is a major plus... Finegold, would be my other choice... they both have good positions and stnd for something...


I think instead of america waiting for a great leader to come along, eg. get off the Kennedy dream, they need to realize that each individual is as powerful as the president... then and only then will I care who is in office... right now the only people I see wanting to claim the seat are people with enough money to buy it... and who only want to make more money while they are sitting in it..


We need to become america as it was founded with seperation of powers at every level... state powers equal federal power... that's the only reason the consititution was signed and passed... not so that we would have a president who ran the country and 'decided' what was best, but that each person no matter where or how small a voice is heard... that's what I want...


ps. I'm one of those naysayers about Splenda, but I'll save that arguement for another time... I did learn alot about fake sugar while in college though... i was taking my nutrition and dietetics classes during the Zero Carb Craze...

[Torog]

Howdy Gumby,

I'm sorry to hear about yer father's death and what you went through..that is indeed,a humbling experience,and there may be hope for ya yet.

My gal and I,she's Jewish and I'm Christian,both of us, have a big chip on our shoulders,when it comes to organized religion..we believe that God is with us whereever we are and that we don't have to go to church to be with God. We don't like big,fancy churches or believe in the leaders of such,living an extravagant life-style,when there are so many poor folks that could be better helped,than them driving cadillacs and worshipping in multi-million dollar churches. With my gal being Jewish and me with long-hair and a beard,I doubt if either one of us would be welcome at my old congregation.

Have a good one ...

[graymatter]

my idea of a change isn't to get a new figure head in office... my 'idea' of change is a whole new way of life... much like the Republicans had a goal in 94 to change america as a whole and not just put someone in office... I think america needs to forget about Regan's theories, they were bush sr.'s anyways...

Reagan's theories were actually rooted Barry Goldwater's modern conservatism... which is funny because Goldwater swung the last ten years of his life to the libertarian side of things. The "one nation under Jesus" nuts scarred the hell out of him.

[graymatter]

With my gal being Jewish and me with long-hair and a beard,I doubt if either one of us would be welcome at my old congregation.

Here, here... you're both welcome to my congregation... we're a pointless gathering because we really don't worship anyone but it's fun! :thumbsup: