this is the enemy...

[Shelbay]

They have attacked us though..9-11? The world Trade Centers? Calling Allah to the end right?

[eg420ne]

They have attacked us though..9-11? The world Trade Centers? Calling Allah to the end right?

I havent seen any evidence that supports that theory, only towards an inside job---Like this one-Which terrorist warn High Level Pentagon Officials not to fly on 911>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And why did they not warn every american that they knew about an imminent attack, they got warnings and ignored them, even going so far as to lie about receiving warnings.....

[halo]

That is true and utter propaganda. They are teaching children to hate. That is so sad.

[GreenKing11]

There are still people who believe that amateur muslim terrorists attacked us on 9/11? Did they put the dynamite under the trade centers also?

[Shelbay]

Yes I believe terrorists attacked New York..and I also believe our Government was caught off guard which should not have happened..my viewpoint. There were warnings that should have been caught at Pearl harbor....just like 9-11..but to me it does not make it a conspiracy on our Governments part..Terrorists saw a chance and they took it..pieces of scum..murderers.But mistakes were made then..now..and of course the future..history does repeat itself...and no this does not mean I agree with everything that is happening with our country either.

[eg420ne]

Yeah terrorist in the name of PNAC-----Rebuilding Americas Defenses http://newamericancentury.org/Rebuil...asDefenses.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century

http://www.americanfreepress.net/12_..._harbored.html
The huge increases in U.S. military spending that have occurred since the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were planned before President George W. Bush was elected by the same men who are pushing the administrationâ??s â??war on terrorismâ?� and the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Billions of dollars in additional defense spending are but the first step in the groupâ??s long-term plan to transform the U.S. military into a global army enforcing a terroristic and bloody Pax Americana around the world.

A neo-conservative Washington-based organization known as the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), funded by three foundations closely tied to Persian Gulf oil and weapons and defense industries, drafted the war plan for U.S. global domination through military power.

One of the organizationâ??s documents clearly shows that Bush and his most senior cabinet members had already planned an attack on Iraq before he took power in January 2001.

The groupâ??s essential demand was for hefty increases in defense spending. â??We need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future,â?� the statementâ??s first principle reads.

The increase in defense spending is to bring about two of the other principles: â??to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and valuesâ?� and â??to accept responsibility for Americaâ??s unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.â?�

A subsequent PNAC plan entitled â??Rebuilding Americaâ??s Defenses: Strategies, Forces and Resources for a New Century,â?� reveals that the current members of Bushâ??s cabinet had already planned, before the 2000 presidential election, to take military control of the Gulf region whether Saddam Hussein is in power or not.

The 90-page PNAC document from September 2000 says: â??The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.â?�

â??Even should Saddam pass from the scene,â?� the plan says U.S. military bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain, despite domestic opposition in the Gulf states to the permanent stationing of U.S. troops. Iran, it says, â??may well prove as large a threat to U.S. interests as Iraq has.â?�

A â??core missionâ?� for the transformed U.S. military is to â??fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars,â?� according to the PNAC.

The strategic â??transformationâ?� of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination would require a huge increase in defense spending to â??a minimum level of 3.5 to 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually,â?� the PNAC plan said.

â??The process of transformation,â?� the plan said, â??is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing eventâ??like a new Pearl Harbor.â?�

American Free Press asked Christopher Maletz, assistant director of the PNAC about what was meant by the need for â??a new Pearl Harbor.â?�

â??They needed more money to up the defense budget for raises, new arms, and future capabilities,â?� Maletz said. â??Without some disaster or catastrophic eventâ?� neither the politicians nor the military would have approved, Maletz said.

[Torog]

I don't hate america i hate amerika... there is a difference, one that you don't understand.

there is a complete seperation when I talk about the idiots that watch american idol... they are amerika... our government is amerika...

I believe in america the way it was foudned and set up, to be free from opression and the church. I only hate amerika and relate it to Nazi Germany because it is like that with Christianity / Republican party... it was bought by a few far right wing douche bags and changed the country into a blind ignorant country. Our president is fighting a war over Islam, the main example of who blind amerika is to the facts and history of war. that is why I hate them, not becaues of what they believe but because they believe they are the rightous. and god loves them...

God loves Muslims as much as he loves christians, something not shown by amerika.

look into the real history of christianity, look at who was in charge of it for the last 200 years... learn as much as you can about it. then you will see it is the Nazi party. It is why we have faught wars for the last 2000 years... and it is why we have a dictator leading our country... it's not an oponion it's a matter of history and facts and it's all thier... it's the fact that amerika is too blind and ignorant to see it that kills me...

By the way I said I want to kill them I can't imagine what Muslims do... how would you feel if someone took your God, your Beliefs and your religion and claimed it as theirs... then used it to gain global power and kill you... would you be very happy...

just look at the history of the last 200o years... this isn't the first time nor the last time this has happened... it's nothing new... when people ask, 'how did the Crusaders kill all those people?' or 'How did they let the Nazi kill all those people?" just remember it is the same reason... was the same reason and will be the same reason... and when people ask why did amerikans kill so many people, the answer will still be the same... it's just sad that you're an american and don't see the answer...

amerika refers to Abbie Hoffman by the way... 'steal this book' <--- i'd recomend it...

I am an american and proud to be one...I hate amerika and will die before I believe in it...

Howdy Gumby,

After reading this reply of your's and a couple of others,I see a pattern..when referring to muslims you capitalize it,same as ya do for the nazi's,you also capitalize God,when in context with muslims and not when in context with Christians. You slipped up when ya said "Christian/Republican party".

You appear to be a hateriot..dedicated to the hatred of America and a sympathizer with the muslim-jihadists and nazi's. You say that we should "read some history"..you should take that advice too..because if you did-you'd know that the muslim-arabs,worked with hitler to eliminate Jews..and now they are heading down the same path..with you prancing happily along side them.

I live with Americans,I know Americans,I worked with Americans..you are no American.

Have a good one ...

[Bong30]

Howdy Gumby,

After reading this reply of your's and a couple of others,I see a pattern..when referring to muslims you capitalize it,same as ya do for the nazi's,you also capitalize God,when in context with muslims and not when in context with Christians. You slipped up when ya said "Christian/Republican party".

You appear to be a hateriot..dedicated to the hatred of America and a sympathizer with the muslim-jihadists and nazi's. You say that we should "read some history"..you should take that advice too..because if you did-you'd know that the muslim-arabs,worked with hitler to eliminate Jews..and now they are heading down the same path..with you prancing happily along side them.

I live with Americans,I know Americans,I worked with Americans..you are no American.

Have a good one ...

Torog,
you are so right just be glad that most americans are like you and I, and not like Gumby and crew.

[Shelbay]

Thanks for leaving me out Bong..I may not be just like you and Torog but I am a Christian and I love America..you should have included me on that one..I am not part of any crew so why was I left out on your post?

[Bong30]

sorry i didnt mean to. your one of my favs

Lets start with voting all incumbents out?

then when we get the real americans like me, P4b, torog, shelabay, in there we will clean house. (in other thread)