Sorry but I have to say something here. I have tried fluro's for years. What's the rest of your setup and how long did it take to get there ? I have worked with fluro's for year and can't get those results. Sorry, but that's a bad ass bud you got there. I think everyone would want to know the secret. I have seen the dif in fluro's and MH, HPS. No comparision. They do veg very well but that'ts it.