Why do you use psychedelics?

[Nexus07083]

Point blank...I just wish people would stop using the vague words "Spiritual growth" because it gives no meaning to anyone but the person who is saying it because nobody but that person can really know what spiritual growth is being talked about...it's just a waste of time to mention those words in general

Ex. Someone tripped and realized that their life was actually a good one. They then say that drug A has spiritual growth. That's all good, but nobody is going to know what the fuck your talking about. So, would it be that hard to instead just say, "Drug A makes me realize that life is good" ?????

I mean come on...I think we're all intelligent enough to explain things instead of acting like little kids and using meaningless words that are confusing...think about why your posting in the first place...to SHARE KNOWLEDGE and using vague words don't help anyone get a better understanding of anything

[Trichocereus Panza]

Okay so just becuase something is difficult to talk about in ANY words, means we shouldn't try to share it with each other?

What words are NOT vague? None. No words have static, determinate meanings. That is why creative, poetic language is better than trying to be technical and precise--because you recognize each word for what it is: provisional, having only a momentary meaning for the specific individuals at hand, that is contained as much in sound and gesture and personal history as it is in the WORDS.

I'm not disagreeing that I will have no clear idea what you're talking about if all you say to me is "LSD gives me spiritual growth." But say I know you a little bit, I have read a lot of your posts and I know what kind of person you are. Then I already have a better idea of your personal spirituality which colors the phrase for me. It won't be the same as if someone else had said the same thing, whom I know to have a very different personality. You COULD be more specific, and that would probably be better, but the phrase is not totally meaningless if I know the context in which you're saying it.

[Nexus07083]

Okay so just becuase something is difficult to talk about in ANY words, means we shouldn't try to share it with each other?

What words are NOT vague? None. No words have static, determinate meanings. That is why creative, poetic language is better than trying to be technical and precise--because you recognize each word for what it is: provisional, having only a momentary meaning for the specific individuals at hand, that is contained as much in sound and gesture and personal history as it is in the WORDS.

I'm not disagreeing that I will have no clear idea what you're talking about if all you say to me is "LSD gives me spiritual growth." But say I know you a little bit, I have read a lot of your posts and I know what kind of person you are. Then I already have a better idea of your personal spirituality which colors the phrase for me. It won't be the same as if someone else had said the same thing, whom I know to have a very different personality. You COULD be more specific, and that would probably be better, but the phrase is not totally meaningless if I know the context in which you're saying it.

True...and to all, I'm not trying to come off as an ass or anything for anyone thinking that i'm riding the high horse :thumbsup:

[harmonicminor]

hey as long as the horse is high off pot or tripping its ok :-)

[Trichocereus Panza]

lol, yeah... now THAT'S the right kind of high horse

[torbaci]

Originally, I was simply curious... then, when I didn't die or meet God, I figured I'd better trip some more to find out what it's all about...
now-a-days when I trip I'm looking for insights and enlightenment but I still enojoy the trails and melting objects and so on and so forth.