READY FOR CHRISTMAS

[turtle420]

ok everyone postmandave came up with a excellent idea. he is gonna ask the mods if we can have a grow contest starting 9/11/05.

I think everybody lost already...

LOL!!!

Just pulling your chains dude...

[mobay]

damn that white russian set me back 1 year, lol

[bongerstonerd00d]

Sept 11th is dead in the middle of a waning moon. Thats not a good time to plant anything that grows above ground such as mj, tomato's, lettuce, etc. You can read about here. http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbot...nabotany4.html. If you wait til Spetember 22nd after 11:45 AM EST it would be much better time. And be sure to plant before October 6th.


b0nger

[The Grim Reefer]

Sept 11th is dead in the middle of a waning moon. Thats not a good time to plant anything that grows above ground such as mj, tomato's, lettuce, etc. You can read about here. http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbot...nabotany4.html. If you wait til Spetember 22nd after 11:45 AM EST it would be much better time. And be sure to plant before October 6th.


b0nger

Indoors, I play God.

[bongerstonerd00d]

You can play Batman for all I care. But if you think for one minute that the different gravitational forces the earth experiences every 28 days does not affect plants, animals, etc.........well, I dont know. Ask your local nursery if they plant by the moon phases. You might be suprised. I do not post wild ass suggestions here, I do read about things before offering info that may give us an edge that nobody has explored yet.

Do you have any data compiled to prove me differently? If so, I would more than happy to review it and admit paying attention to moon phases is utter bullshit. Suprisingly, all I can find on the www is articles that say it is very important. PLants germinate better at certain times, take water, eat nutes, and you should graft, take cuttings, etc. And it all happens every 28 days.

Even certain months are better to plant in than others. Some are considered fertile months, some are not. And no, I dont practice witchcraft or think I am the devil, or even play one for that matter even though I do stay at Holiday Inn Express occasionally.

Only thing I can think of is you can control the specific gravity on the inside of your house ? NASA is looking for people like you



b0nger

[postmandave]

t5his is new to me . but thanks its sure a intresting avenue to explore. i havent read or heard about this sort of considoratoin of the moon cycles in growing before but hey im opened to any thing that helps our lovely hobby more intresting. so im of to have a read , thanks again for your input you made a mad stoned lunatic deeply exited. im off . ps and stoned dont tell no one lol. the postman.

[The Grim Reefer]

Bonger - I looked a bit further into this and though some sites and agricultural experts weren't sure of the valid results, some of the articles said there was an effect and some stated there was no effect but the results vary..

then I found this article at weedfarmer.com:

The Phases of the Moon

Superior Cannabis gardens are what gardeners want for their efforts, and planting by the phases of the Moon makes this possible. Seeds germinate faster. Plants are hardier and more disease-resistant. They blossom sooner and bear more fruit. Just as importantly, they better resist the stress of harsh weather, drought and insect infestation. Naturally, good gardening techniques must still be adhered to. Gardens need be watered, pruned, mulched, hoed, weeded and fertilized. If you have an outside or in side cannabis garden, paying attention to the Moon phases may be the easiest part of your cannabis gardening experience but the one with the biggest rewards.

Gardening by the moon phases is all a matter of timing. Since we are able to anticipate the phases, we can plan ahead and maximize the connection between the solar system and biological cycles to gain optimum results in the cannabis garden.

The Moon symbolizes emotions, instincts, habits and routine. It describes the ways in which we feel most nurtured and secure. The Moon also reflects the public mood as it changes signs every two to two and half days.

Cycles of the Moon The Moon travels monthly through each of the 12 signs of the Zodiac, staying approximately 2 and a half days in each sign. As it does so it forms an angular relationship with the Sun that we call a Phase of the Moon. Phase actually means the angle between Moon, Earth and Sun. Moon orbits the Earth and the Earth orbits the Sun. It is the Earth's orbit that defines the ecliptic which is divided symbolically into the Zodiac.

First of all, phases occur in two stages - Waxing and Waning. The Moon is Waxing - growing - during these phases: New Moon | Crescent Moon | First quarter Moon | Gibbous Moon

It is Waning - shrinking - during these phases: Full Moon | Disseminating | Second Quarter | Balsamic

As a general rule of thumb when the Moon is waxing, plants develop leaves and above ground systems, when it is waning plants develop their root systems. Planting leafy crops such as cannabis that grow above ground are best sown at waxing moon and those that will require strong root systems or grow below ground should be sown after full moon, in the waning phase.

We can now divide these phases into four quarters.

New Moon to First quarter

First quarter to Full Moon

Waxing Full Moon to Second quarter

Second quarter to New Moon again. - Waning

These 4 phases can be useful to apply the rule of thumb Plant | Feed Harvest|Destroy If you get these 4 main quarters fixed, you will go a long way to understanding cycles.

The 4 intermediate phases also form a quaternary of activity.

Crescent

Gibbous

Disseminating

Balsamic

Crescent moon phase is when the best germination occurs and is a good time for thinning out seedlings to give room for the rapid growth that occurs at the next phase. Gibbous moon phase is when there is a greater uptake of nutrients from the soil, and swelling of fruits. Disseminating moon is an excellent time for seed setting and ripening. Balsamic phase is the best time for destroying weeds, pruning trees, and all preparation for the next cycle.

It is important to note that you should not do any gardening task at the exact time of a phase. Wait a few hours. Each of the exact phase positions marks a critical time as the moon makes a shift from one phase to the next.

Because the Sun stays in a sign for a full month there are some months that are better for certain gardening tasks than others. Interfacing the Sun cycle and the Moon's cycle takes a little skill but is not 1 difficult once you apply the logic.

If the Sun is in a 'fertile' sign for a month, then you should take advantage of that month to do some gardening - naturally the best results occur when the Moon is also is a fertile sign and the correct phase with the Sun. The best days for doing specific tasks will depend on the Moon's sign. To synthesize the phase with the sign is important in planting. There is no point in planting at the correct phase, if the Moon is in an incompatible sign - one which might damage or inhibit growth.

Remember the Sun stays in a sign for approximately a month, the Moon passes through all 12 signs in a month, so stays in a sign for approximately 2 and a half days. A new moon always occurs when the Sun and Moon are in the same sign. A full moon occurs when the Moon is in the opposite sign to the Sun.


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So I appreciate you bringing this to my attention as now I can do more research on the subject.

[mobay]

fuck all that shit, if we were to start this on sept.22, the holidays would be over. does that shit apply to you getting your girl knocked up to? cause iam trying to germinate my seed in her on that date.

[bongerstonerd00d]

I was raised a farmboy out in BFE Applachia, and you planted nothing unless the Farmers Almanac told ya it was ok. If you plant onion sets the wrong days of the month they will be on top of the ground the next morning, and thats a fact.

I read the website you pasted from as well as many others prior to stating my opinion. Irregardless of what is said, the majority agree that the phases of the moon, certain months, etc all affect the lives of plants, people, animals.

I dont know of anything that has never been set in stone. There are always naysayers. Thats what makes life so much fun. All I do know is maybe there is "one" angle that has not been that closely explored. So, since we are a group, lets try to compile some data and determine if its horseshit, or if a fact. I am willing to do so, and I will be the first to share my results. No need to bust my fuckin nuts over this. And if you think it is a crazy idea, dont mess with it. Your grow is exaclty that. "Yours", what you do, or do not do, doesn't matter as long as you are satisfied.

I mean, what could be any easier. It seems as if everyone plans their grows anyways. So you take a quick glance at the upcomming moon phases, pick your month, day, etc and proceed. Seems simple enough to me if it proves to increase yield, potency, naturally eliminate pest troubles, yada yada yada......................

I've never paid that much attention to such plants as dandelions, etc, but you can bet your ass when I see them sprouting like crazy now that I will be checking the moon phase to see where it is at. They are a weed, and that is all we are trying to cultivate.

They refer to people becomming "lunatics" on a full moon a bunch of shit also. Ask any cop or bartender you know if it is true or not. Domestic violence, assult, D.U.I arrests all increase noticeably on a full moon. Coincidence or fact ? And there is data compiled to prove that, lots of it.


Here is what I intend to do:
Start germinating one seed at the beginning of a waxing moon, one in the middle, one near the end. Repeat same process for the 14 days of the waning moon. Number each sample, and see which ones fare the best. Could it just be the seeds, maybe. Could it might be just "whatever", maybe that also. But if I do this for 15-20 grows, I am betting I can establish a pattern. Maybe I wont since using hydro, and if thats the case, I can say fuck the moon. If not, and I can tell you for a fact that the seed planted in mid-waxing stage of every single test yielded minimum of another ounce, seemed much healthier, more trichs, etc, you would not be interested ?

b0nger


P.S. Mobay, you plant right after August 22, 21:23 (9:23 PM EST), and you are fine. X_Mas will come a little early for you. I am not sure why you would not be interested in something that might produce an extra 3-4 buds per plant, or possibly more, who knows. I thought we were here to share our ideas if anyone had one that may be beneficial to all.

[bongerstonerd00d]

Interesting sites all over the www to read about moon phases and their effects. Enjoy your reading. Who knows, maybe we might stumble across something. Running out is a bitch, I remember those days.....lol (its been 12 years ago). But I am retiring very soon, and I shall have no worries about drug tests any longer:rasta: So if we can avoid buying shit weed from some punk because we planted on the correct day, hell, I am all for it.

Maybe since we try to recreate the outdoors in our houses it may mean little. And, I dont know about the U.K, but here in the U.S. gravity works the same inside as it does outside.......lol I am a gambler, and my bets are on the moon phases do matter.

I would assume all keep some type of written log on each grow, this is just one more stat to add to your log.

When I read that adding menustratation juice to your water was beneficial I wondered who in the hell found that out, and how.....lol lol lol lol



l8er,
b0nger