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05-20-2006, 11:58 PM #1OPMember
General Hydroponics
I just picked up 3 bottles of General Hydroponics Grow Micro and Bloom. How much per gallon should i use?
Innsurectionist Reviewed by Innsurectionist on . General Hydroponics I just picked up 3 bottles of General Hydroponics Grow Micro and Bloom. How much per gallon should i use? Rating: 5
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05-20-2006, 11:58 PM #2OPMember
General Hydroponics
actually how do you do any of it?
could you redirect me if this has already been posted.
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05-21-2006, 01:46 AM #3Senior Member
General Hydroponics
Um... there's a GH chart over in the FAQs... let me see if I get the link...
Yeap... Here it is: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=25080
Look, the GH 3part you can use mainly in two ways: by stages (clones, veg, flowering) or by weeks (veg1, veg2, flowering1, flowering2... etc).
Or you can mix them with the Lucas formula or other one of those.
I follow the GH chart for weeks.
How to mix them:::
I had the same questions... so let's see if this helps.
1st, fill your rez, bucket, etc.
You have to add the GH nutes IN ORDER... or nutrient lock-out can occour... whatever the fuck that means.
First, mix the correct amounts of Grow... mix.
Micro... mix.
Bloom... mix.
How much? Follow the directions. They give X mL (or Y teaspoons) per US gallon. you just multiply/divide/etc. to get what you need.
After you've mixed everything, give it some time (1 hour?)... then check your pH, and adjust for pH.
You should adjust for pH after the nutrients... as Zandor says, the nutrients have a "buffer" effect on the water's pH. So it doesn't make sense to correct for pH, mix nutes, then re-pH the thing.
Hope this helps dude.
Best,
-turtle420
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05-21-2006, 03:22 AM #4Junior Member
General Hydroponics
I was taught to add the micro first, or else lockout would occur.
Turtle said.
"First, mix the correct amounts of Grow... mix.
"Micro... mix.
"Bloom... mix.
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05-21-2006, 05:26 AM #5Senior Member
General Hydroponics
always add micro 1st...yes that is right.
You can also go to MOndoproshop...Advanced Nutrients calculator and it will show you additives as well as recipes to use with 3-part...
GH and AN 3-part are the same thing...
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05-21-2006, 07:24 AM #6Senior Member
General Hydroponics
Originally Posted by seasmoker
Interesting... I always follow this:
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...4&d=1121829097
Grow --> Micro --> Bloom...
But man, two things:
1st- if it's working for you... keep it up...
2nd- GH, the people that make the stuff, are telling me to Grow --> Micro --> Bloom
3rd- LateWood says you can add Micro first... and if LW says it... you can bet on it being A-Ok.
Ok... three things...
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05-21-2006, 11:00 PM #7Senior Member
General Hydroponics
Thanks Turtle...I have to admit I think I have read it both ways, but I usually digress towards the advice from advanced nutrients in matters relating to this, because...
and this is my only reason...I agree with turtle, if it works for you, then it is right for you, but my reason is because All advanced nutrients products are tested exclusively on medical marijuana-MMJ...therefore...my reasoning.
that's it. If you read gh homesite, they probably tell you something different...It's all a, I said, he said, we said, they said kind of scenario...know what I mean vern
finally, I must say, i don't think it really matters, as long as you never mix the nutes in their undiluted state...They'll blow up!!!
Hell just for discussion. I have read put in all your additives 1st , then add 3-part until you reach desired ppm/tds/EC range. Makes sense right?
I have also read, and keep in mind, this is from a reputable source also. always mix your additives after setting nutrients to desired ppm/tds/EC range, because additives don't add to EC level...well I do not agree with this...I have done many readings while adding additives and I have increased EC readings. Hygrozyme has no EC value that I can tell by measurement, however Liquid karma and Calmag+ do increase the salts in the mix...so you have to figure some of this stuff out for yourself.
I've got great books and have taken great advice from great growers..here, @OG, @TYdot, at KKdotnet, and I screw up all the time...some I share, some I save for when you folks screw up and then I post my experience...It helps everybody learn.
anyway...it's a new spring, the veggies are flourishing, and water's cascading down the streams...have a great day.
lw
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05-22-2006, 03:46 PM #8Senior Member
General Hydroponics
LateWood,
100% with you on that one.
If it's working, keep it up.
As you say, I've seen both things:
1- additives after
2- additives before
And shitloads of many other things... I guess, that's what the hobby is about. Experimentation.
SIDE NOTE: I'm with you with the CalMag raising EC levels... but for some interesting reason, Dark Energy (high concentrated) does not make noticable changes in the mix's EC/ppm/pH.
Whatever... this experimentation thing is great!
Best to all of you,
-turtle420
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05-23-2006, 12:39 PM #9Senior Member
General Hydroponics
I veg with half ounce or one tbls spoon micro 3grow 1/4 bloom then swithch to 4/bloom one grow or nit and 1/4 micro works great for me. p.s. this is a grow from 8 years ago when i started general hydro poducts still use today
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05-23-2006, 02:29 PM #10Senior Member
General Hydroponics
Micro first is how I do it..but I have a question while we are on the subject.. I use the Lucas formula and add Diamond Nectar and KoolBloom.. Well I don't think the Diamond Nectar does a damn thing.. I have grown several grows with and with out it and can't tell a difference.. Anyone else try this stuff with any luck?? Is there something better that will work?? Do you really need this stuff or is just another way for them to make money?? Frankly I think I could do just as well with just the micro and bloom.. I think I may have answered my own question.. :stoned: :stoned:
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