No, it is just that co2 is not the cure-all monster growing miracle...unless you know what you are doing...It takes a fairly elaborate set-up and alot of tweaking to get co2 settings right...Hell you can fry'em with co2 if you are not careful...

sorry, I wasn't trying to be an A'Hole..Opie...My back is Killing me and I am out of Indimeds...Not smoke...just Indi....lol

there is a ton of crap out there...Yes, you are right, but to make a general statement that all additives are a waste of money...That is not true...
you can grow anyway you want, and everybody does...You can't always put Stock in the fact that a product didn't show results...How do you know every other aspect of the grow wasn't messed up? that's all I'm saying

but 1st...it is a fact that optimum results are obtained...using reverse osmosis water. When you put water through the RO process...it takes everything out good and bad. So you have to replenish your beneficial elements. OK? We like Calmag+ for this, but now...many other nutrient companies are following suit. That tells you something too.

about the other additives. Everyone believes in adding potash for bloom...well that's big bud. and big bud is a one of a kind product...I have asked every kickass hydro guy I know...and I talk their ears OFF!!! they all say the same thing when I try to find an alternative that is close...the element/mineral values of big bud are not matched by any product on the market. I don't know.

I have seen a great big giant difference in the use of Liquid Karma and Not using Liquid Karma...
Infact...I had to quit using it on my tomato's because the Damn tomato's were growing all over the frickin' place.

best part? It's Organic. the only other additive that I truly think (expensive!!!!!!) makes a vast difference in buddage is VooDoo Juice...but @ 65 bucks a liter...I can do without that...Until I shit a GOLD brick LOL Oh and of course I do keep a little bottle of Superthrive.

hope all is OK, Keep it up. Enjoy