5 gallon bucker prep for bloomin

[Opie Yutts]

I obviously haven't proven myself, I do know what I'm doing.
From the moment I first laid eyes on you, there was no doubt that you know what you are doing.

You seem to always agree with me, and visa versa, so you must be right.

[Opie Yutts]

That Liquid Karma being organic, I guess it has some small chunks in it, making it likely to clog up my spray jets. Is that the same with Voodoo Juice? (Good lord I think for the rest of my life I will not be able to say the word "voodoo" with out thinking of Ferris Buhler's Day Off.) And do you recall how much you add per gallon of nutes? That might have a lot to do with my decision to try it. If it's like SuperThrive though, that $65 worth could go a long way. I wouldn't mind paying that if it really makes a difference. At least once to try might not be a bad idea. I got to tell you, Relic's offer is looking very attractive at this point though. Looking forward to that recipe. Sounds like this could be the way to go though, as far as expense vs results. Hmm.. decisions, decisions.

I think I would like to try something, since everyone seems to think that it can make a difference if you use their particular favorite additive. Probably need to experiment. Whatever I decide, love all you guys man. Thanks for all the input, this is great. I didn't start this thread, but it sure has my attention.

[latewood]

1st off relic...I never said anyone didn't know what they were doing. And, thanks for the new info.

2nd, I think it's great for knowledgable people to join and contribute. sick of kids that don't know shit.

/quote/Bigbuds potash is not needed, at least, for the affect the consumers are buying it for. What Bigbud does is almost stop the stretch during flowering, forcing the plant to focus more of it's energy in creating and increasing budsize and flowers"...relic, that is exactly why I started using it...when was it taken off the shelves? I just bought a jar a month ago.

Like I said. I have controlled environments too. I did see big difference with LK... I only trust ME! I have done 15 grow experiments in the last year and a 1/2. (by the way. I am Mod at alternative MMJ site also.)

I agree with a lot that you say, but still find it to be a matter of opinion. peace lw

welcome and please don't take offense to my attitude. and, don't call me a newb. lw

[misk]

wat are the advantages of using thrive?
and could somone explain wat stretch is and how those additives affect it?
i have just started my plant on 12/12 and dont wana miss anything that could imporve or prevent somthing negative happening.

i am a newbie to the more technical side of weed cultivation, im on my 4th grow but first hydro. in the past ive only done outdoor with just grow and bloom nuts. still good results tho

so any advice is greatly appreciated.
cheers

[LOC NAR1958]

Misk, welcome.
When you put your plants in 12/12 to flower they continue to grow 2 to 3 times their size.. The strech is the space between bud sites and you want it as short as you can, more bud less stem. bud blood and big bud are used to keep the strech down. Superthrive is for vegatation , to make a good healthy root system before flowering. Do not use during 12/12.

[misk]

thanx heaps

[latewood]

bud blood sets the flowers and big bud fattens the buds...basically...

superthrive is a growth hormone with b-vitamins and is believed to be a stress reducing factor...

loc? I don't know why you would not use ST for 12/12.

this is not scientific, but here goes. In flower, it is known that stress is a cause of hermies, therefore it stands to reason that using ST for it's stress relieveing tendencies...would be good for stress maintenance...I am
not saying anyone is wrong here. It has been documented both ways.

P.S. relic, I have been waiting along time for someone to explain the differences of the bigbud in order to find a replacement...the proof is still out, but your info, has peaked my interest, so I would appreciate some of your time.

I think the great info you posted here would have been better placed in it's own thread, so as to be a value to the community, and to introduce yourself for...How'd you put it?
to prove yourself...

ps I am just a guy that has put in countless hours helping people learn to get started in a positive manner. I suggest alternatives generally, unless I know someone is dead wrong. I have said it repeatedly, but evidently not enough...I don't care how you grow...I know what work's for me...If you don't want or need help...Cool beans with me.
trouble is...All you guys come in here from OG and think no-one here knows what's going on.
all the products In use and suggest, work and I'm sorry, but I find it pretentious to suggest otherwise...I am positive your recipe and research will prove an asset to many here @Cdot; Including myself, but please don't put me on a pedestal, I am no big 'Dick' round here, and I don't appreciate you putting that out there like that.
I have earned members respect here because I
have helped many in the past.

I hope you don't take offense to this reply. I just had to air my feelings in order to move on. that is one of my endearing qualitites...you will never have to guess, how I feel lw

[Relic2279]

1st off relic...relic, that is exactly why I started using it...when was it taken off the shelves? I just bought a jar a month ago.

Whoops! When I said bigbud in the last post, I was meaning Dutchmasters superbud. I was pretty well buzzing when I wrote that post.. Forgive me

Like I said. I have controlled environments too. I did see big difference with LK... I only trust ME! I have done 15 grow experiments in the last year and a 1/2.

Yeah, I don't doubt ya. I was just giving my opinion based on my trials, sorry if I tried to make it sound like "fact". With some people having good results, and others having none, I would assume that certain strains like certain additives while others don't react to them. It's the only conclusion I can come too...

and, don't call me a newb. lw

Hmm I hope I didn't call ya a newb. Because I don't think you are. :P

All you guys come in here from OG and think no-one here knows what's going on.
all the products In use and suggest, work and I'm sorry, but I find it pretentious to suggest otherwise...

I don't think that at all. At first, I felt like I was the one being treated like I didn't know anything so I may have been on the aggressive side.

I am no big 'Dick' round here, and I don't appreciate you putting that out there like that.

It was the weed talking. Nah, I can be pretty blunt and bolt. I don't mean anything by it, take no offense. I'm a bit eccentric. Or so I've been told.

By the way, doing some research now to find out if bigbud contains any auxins or cytokinins (hormones). I wasn't interested in bigbud at all until a fellow grower of mine (the crazy scientist type) mentioned that he thought it contained cytokinins. If this is the case, then I'm almost postitive it would be zeatin. While I haven't used hornby's bigbud, I'm curious as to if it slows or stops stretch. Anyone care to leave feedback?

As far as a replacement for superbud goes, all the hydrostores online are claiming "Phosphoload" is Superbud's replacement. While almost damn near expensive as Superbud, I haven't heard anything about this product yet. I will say this, if it doesn't contain any plant hormones, it's not a superbud replacement.

These nutrient companies don't give up their secret reciepes willingly so it's hard work. Stay tuned!

[latewood]

Whoops! :smokin: got:stoned: Forgive me



Yeah, I don't doubt ya. I was just giving my opinion based on my trials, sorry if I tried to make it sound like "fact". With some people having good results, and others having none, I would assume that certain strains like certain additives while others don't react to them. It's the only conclusion I can come too...///lw/// this is exactly what I was saying, I don't really follow the philosphy that different strains would squewe the results as much as... don;t laugh now. the difference in; Water! 2 or more? people with different characteristics, different grow tendencies. Lighting differences.(although I am sure you have at least 600w-1000w or more.)...atmosphere...I mean, for instance. Q///what if I came to your lab and used Liquid Karma? do you think it would work for me?
I really feel I see more vigor using the product. However, I would most likely get as good a result following your recipe!:thumbsup:

I don't think that at all. At first, I felt like I was the one being treated like I didn't know anything so I may have been on the aggressive side. ///lw///I did not mean to make you feel unwelcome. We need your kind around here.
good people and tight knit grow community. You will love it:smokin:



It was the weed talking. Nah, I can be pretty blunt and bolt. I don't mean anything by it, take no offense. I'm a bit eccentric. Or so I've been told. ///lw///you jusr described me I've got so many irons in the fire...And, My back is Killing me

By the way, doing some research now to find out if bigbud contains any auxins or cytokinins (hormones). I wasn't interested in bigbud at all until a fellow grower of mine (the crazy scientist type)///lw///maybe a'Scientist' mentioned that he thought it contained cytokinins. If this is the case, then I'm almost postitive it would be zeatin. While I haven't used hornby's bigbud, I'm curious as to if it slows or stops stretch. Anyone care to leave feedback?


These nutrient companies don't give up their secret reciepes willingly so it's hard work. Stay tuned!

I'll check out some of the products you mention and research a couple of these queries, you brought to mind. I gotta go. spent all day @ another site I help out @ posting a build thread...And My back is KILINGINGINGNGG me!!!

peace bro, check ya later.
ps Did you read the altered quote?

lw

[LOC NAR1958]

Hey, latewood
Someone said you shouldn't use it in flower, I can't remember who now. When I got it I thought it was for the whole grow for stress like you said. Good to know I will start putting it in. Yes relic's info is good reading, I would like to see it in a thread also. Keep all the good info in one place. Makes it easy if I get stoned and confused. LOL