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    #11
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    Chemical vs Natural

    I find most natural trips overwhelming and hard to control(i.e. make me insane), and prefer synthetic trips.

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Chemical vs Natural

    I like to get high off life.
    You should all do the same.

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Chemical vs Natural

    Shut the FUCK UP. Like common I know the saying "To each, his own" but common who the fuck gives a damn whether its man-made, natural, or aliens dropped it off from a UFO, as long as I aint gonna kill you instantly, and you get to where you want to be who gives a flying fuck. All you ppl saying shit like "I only trust natural" or "Chemical is dirty" or some shit like that, you all make me sick. Arsinic is natural, it makes you BLEED INTERNALLY. Datura and Beladonna are all natural, and they make you trip for a good day at least, but the next morining YOU GO BLIND for a few days. Now Im not saying chemical drugs are better, Im just saying, give the whole "all-natural hippy shit" a fricken break.

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Chemical vs Natural

    If I like it and have a good time, then I don't mind doing chemical or natural. It's all the same to me.

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    #15
    Senior Member

    Chemical vs Natural

    Quote Originally Posted by BestTonicIsChronic
    Shut the FUCK UP. Like common I know the saying "To each, his own" but common who the fuck gives a damn whether its man-made, natural, or aliens dropped it off from a UFO, as long as I aint gonna kill you instantly, and you get to where you want to be who gives a flying fuck. All you ppl saying shit like "I only trust natural" or "Chemical is dirty" or some shit like that, you all make me sick. Arsinic is natural, it makes you BLEED INTERNALLY. Datura and Beladonna are all natural, and they make you trip for a good day at least, but the next morining YOU GO BLIND for a few days. Now Im not saying chemical drugs are better, Im just saying, give the whole "all-natural hippy shit" a fricken break.
    theres plenty of research chemicals where the side effects are pretty much unknown.
    a lot of the natural ones the effects are known and you know to stay away

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Chemical vs Natural

    Of course with research chemicals the effects are widely unknown, because they are research chemicals. Great care should be taken when administering yourself such a substance. Not because they are synthetic but because the side effects are widely unknown.
    The same would apply to any new potentially psychoactive substance found in nature. Let's say an organic chemist discovered a compound in some species of fungus -natural but never before encountered- that he believed could be hallucinogenic. If he wanted to give it a try I doubt very much he would say to himself "Well it is natural it must be safe" and trip there and then.

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Chemical vs Natural

    It dosent matter if its synthetic as long as there no impurities in the substance. Synthetic mitragynine would bw the exact compound as the plant derived extract.

    Just because it comes from a plant does not mean its good for you anyway.
    Strychnine is plant derived.

    Aconitine is derived from aconitium napellus appearing in mythology when Arachne challenged the Greek goddess Minerva to a weaving contest. after Arachne wove her web and hung herself Minerva preserved Arachnes memory "Then, sprinkling her [Arachne] with the juices of aconite, the goddess [Minerva] transformed her into a spider. (Gayley, C.M., The Classic Myths in English Literature and Art, Ginn-Blaisdell Xerox company, 1893, 1911, and 1939. Massachusetts, Toronto, London. pgs. 82-84)

    Or the well known 'suicide tree' in southern India has been responsible for approximately 50 deaths a year in Kerala alone not to mention Madagascar were it has estimatedly killed 3000 people per year. It is the plant cerbera odollam containing a extremely deadly poison 'cerberin' causing the heart to stop beating after 3 - 6 hours. It has only recently been investigated by our weastern toxicologist escaping detection by forensics until recently. (Gaillard, Y., Krishnomoorthy, A., Bevalot, F., Journal of Ethnopharmacology 95 (2004) 123-126)

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