I've taken 4 grams of Azures, I've been through ego death... it is awesome... it's like being reborn... things having no succession, like Huxley said. Salvia is just a quick jolt into a another world... and the trip is you figuring out what's going on and trying to get back to reality. Salvia ego loss isn't really the sae as actual ego loss. I think with Salvia you're also losing other parts of your perception.