"In fact, we can't even let alone handle alcohol that we had to push the drinking age to 21. We saved 20,000 lives a year just for doing that."


Hows that? The same percent of 19 year olds drink in america now as in places where its legal. Instead of at the bar, where there are bouncers to ensure some type of safety, kids drink unsupervised in outdoor or house parties. It causes MORE drinking and driving. If i try stumbling out of bar while jingling my keys i get forcably put in cab. No one cares if you leave bush party drunk. No one will stop the fights or the rapes there either. A 21 year old drinking age is moronic, its failed as a law, and only the usa has an age that high.



"Medical? Is there really medical benefits? Or is it just an excuse for potheads and old people to get high?"


Quit being a pawn of the pharmaceutical industry, all their sleeping pills and depression meds dont even come close to the benefits of pot.


"I've read posts from some of you that are trying to bullshit your doctors to get a medical card (YOU know who YOU are!) "



I think most pot use is medicinal. Its a herb, people should be able to use it for anything they want, and not have to justify to you.



"Yet a non smoker from a completely different forum said: "Amsterdam is full of whores and potheads! It's disgusting!" "


Its full of pot heads because its the only place like that on earth. Who cares about hookers? Are you gay? A jesus freak? People want to fuck a hooker go ahead, at least its contained in one area, people in holland dont have crack whores turning tricks in front of their kids school. There was a red lite long before there was a coffee shop, its the oldest profession on earth.




"There's a bad side of everything. We should discuss it. I see way too many threads on people failing and dropping out of school because they skip school and get high. We cannot toss that aside. "



So? Grad school is full of stoners with A averages. Lots of people drop out of school and never touch pot. Pot has nothing to do with you being a failure. It sure helped me acheive success in school. Blame yourself for your own failures, stop scapgoating pot or booze. School in north america is laughably easy.


"Maybe they simply don't want the country to be full of potheads who stay home all the time."


I never stay home. I go to the weed cafe, or just out. Snowboarding, biking, the beach. Stop with the old stereotypes, i know alot of pot heads who are in great shape, the dont stay home eating chips and playing vids.


"It'd be great if weed became legal and I can easily go to a store and get weed and peacefully smoke it at home. That's what we all think. But maybe we're thinking for ourselves and just want to get high. "


No i am thinking i want to take away money from organized crime and get law enforcement to fight real actual crime. Like the murder rape robbery theft, i can think of lots of stuff the cops could be doing. I am also sick of paying for drug war with my taxes, if that makes me greedy, you can kiss my ass. I already have all the weed i want, it wont affect my life to be able to go to store and get it, but there are lots of people who are sick and cant get it.



"It's already all over the news these days. Kids are abusing salvia. Salvia IS becoming an issue. "


Wow you are easy to lead. A few media outlets create an artifical scare about sally d and now its an issue? I havent heard any real citizens act concerned, just politicans and cops. People dont abuse salvia, even people who like it. It sounds nice, but its just media hysteria, and u buy into it, sad.