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"Sure, you and the other nra hicks are actually going to do something about that. Let me know when so i can watch military massacare you on cnn"

wow, great start to your retort...calling names.


"Theres no such things as safe ownership of guns."

No such thing? Then you say---"If you want to shoot on a range and leave the pistol locked up there i have no problem with it." So the gun range has some magical super special locks that criminals can't break? Wow, that's good to know...I need to get one of those.




"Legitimate gun owners are the problem."

So the people who obey the law are the problem not those who are breaking the law and harming others. Got it.:thumbsup:


You say this--- "And yet when you house gets broken into you seem to think that negates all responsibilty. Every day i see you so called responsible gun owners get your guns stolen, and u seem to think u have no responsibity for what happens with that gun. All the guns in the hands of criminals came from you people orginally.and then you say----"Who are these mystery men who want to hurt you? Home invaders? You go look at stats for who get home invaded, its all drug dealers."

So, which is it? do people break into homes? or not? Because if they do then maybe I should be able to stop them from say raping my wife? But if the "mystery men" don't really exist then who steals all these guns? Who kills people with them? and puts "your children in danger"?


"Not so. Illegal guns came from legal sources originally."

Those darn "mystery men" breaking into houses again right?


"Where do you draw the line? Rocket launchers? Machine guns? ICBMS? Those are all just peiaces of metal too. The atomic bomb didnt kill those people in hiroshima, the person who dropped it did? Thats just semantics. Guns kill."

If guns are to blame how come they just don't arrest the guns? Yah, that's it! we need to build prisons for guns! Then they won't go around shooting people.


"My drug use harms only me. Your gun endangers many."

So, if your child stumbles onto your Stash of lets say lsd or Smack or Coke, or pick one...and your kid ODs it still only hurts you right?

"Using a gun for self defence should be a crime."

Where as using your hands, or a knife, or a rock, or a car, or a pen, or a fill in the blank, is ok? Or should we just all lay down and take what ever those Mystery Men want to do to us and our families?

At the end of the day you want me to trust that people with guns arent going to shoot me or my kids. And if they do all you can offer is longer sentences for the person who pulled the trigger. Thats not good enough, i want to be safe from gun violence, and the only way to do that is ban guns.

Yah, worked in washington dc...oh, wait no it didn't. In brazil guns are illegal but some how people are still dieing from gun shot wounds....how can that be? I mean, people must know that their not allowed to have them and no one would ever break the law....that would make them criminals! ::::GASP!::::

Abyss

PS. I want you to notice that I didn't have to resort to calling names to win this debate. All though I think there may be some sarcasm in there somewhere.
Abyss Reviewed by Abyss on . Any shooters in here? So, how many of us shoot around here? By shooting, I don't mean you've got a 'gat' and you shoot at cans while holding said 'gat' in a sideways-gangsta style. I mean you collect, are knowledgable, and are RESPONSIBLE when it comes to firearms. Anyway, been shooting since I was about 6. I currently have 3 semi-automatics: HK USP 45, Beretta 96FS (.40), and a Springfield XD 45. Rating: 5