what i have to say is you'lve all made good points. but i honestly think that getting amd at others and calling them retarded and them then getting defensive and endless cycles is gonna solve anything. it takes a while for intense physical addiction to sart yes. but i was sick yesterday fro the first time really sick and it was pretty damn shitty and even then i knew i was only feeling a portion of what longer time more intense junkies feel when they go a couple days without. but mental addiction kick sin almost immediately you may no need more but you sure as hell want more and start thinking about it alot. ilve been shooting for about two months now every week i shoot more times last week i shot four went the weekend without this week i started off on monday by having to shoot twice in one day cause the first one barely did anything and that just made me irritable. so on tuesday i had to up my dose by about 10 mg to get the same feelinfg as before i went weds. and thurs. without and most of today. weds. i was irritable and craving like crazy and thurseday i was sick all day today was a bit better but i still wanted more. im still at a point where i could quite if i wanted too. but i don't its in my head too much and i'lve got too much shit going on right now to feel like i want to go through that effort. i liek it too much i want it too much and im almost at the point where im starting to need it. but honestly your thinking about it now alot your gonna be thinking about wanting it after more than 10 times as much. if your gonna do it i recommend you be extremely resigned to doing it just once or twice else you'll fall down that path where many have gone before. you need to have that dedication and beable to make that promise to yourself and no matter what keep it before going on with this or i can almost promise you you'll do it again and the again and then more frequently and then increased dosage and then notice you feel sick and weak and etc... when you dont do it and everything that was fucked up around you before you sarted becomes even more hard to deal with. seriously its good your doing research but facts cant always tell you what your emotional level will be like amd how often you'll be thinking about it and wanting it and how much you will need to be resigned to not doing ti again. so seriously put alot of thought into it beforehand