Iraq banking reforms are on track: central bank

[Gumby]

Thats right, it would be much better if they were to leave the banking system in complete shambles. Now THAT would be freedom!


Is it so hard to acknowledge that something good is happening over there?:twocents:

freedom never meant government control... I do believe there is a huge seperation between that in our consitution... just cause you're getting fucked when you get raped it doesn't mean that it still feels good

why can't you admit that it's not a good war and the little good we do acomplish over there doesn't and won't out way the bad, until it is fixed?

[eg420ne]

Psycho4bud first needs to admit that the official government story of 911 is a lie B4 he can admit the Iraq war is/was bad

[Shelbay]

Was he racist against brown people--im just kidding Shelbay I saw white, german, and blue eyes & couldnt resist--:thumbsup:

haha...I just now read this..a good one:clap:

[Psycho4Bud]

Psycho4bud first needs to admit that the official government story of 911 is a lie B4 he can admit the Iraq war is/was bad

Your version of 9-11 is a lie, I'll admit to that. Besides that, 9-11 and the Iraqi war have very little to do with each other. Completely different issues besides the Zarqawi factor but that wasn't a main reason for invading Iraq.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

freedom never meant government control... I do believe there is a huge seperation between that in our consitution... just cause you're getting fucked when you get raped it doesn't mean that it still feels good

why can't you admit that it's not a good war and the little good we do acomplish over there doesn't and won't out way the bad, until it is fixed?

They had an election by the people of Iraq and formed their government and constitution from voting BY THE PEOPLE. Are you suggesting that there be NO government and just let the smaller factions take over areas like gangs do in our larger cities?

[Gumby]

They had an election by the people of Iraq and formed their government and constitution from voting BY THE PEOPLE. Are you suggesting that there be NO government and just let the smaller factions take over areas like gangs do in our larger cities?

If you really think that each Iraqi is going out and particapting in elections to find a leader you are wacthing too much Fox News and not enough real news... there is a war going on there... (and your previous post - we did go in because of 9/11 and because of WMDs.... the third things we went into Iraq for was to AFTER WE REMOVED the wmd's and dictator and found the terrorists in Iraq. Then we were spose to help them set up a free government) That's not what is happening, they don't vote and it doesn't matter... they don't have a government and it's been 3 years since MISSION ACOMPLISHED.

I am suggesting that they follow the path our founders did where they gave EACH AND EVERY state the power of the central government. Something we have forgotten since we have a dictator. Bush is trying to set up Iraw like america and when 28% of the people he rules don't like him you think another country is going to be happy about changing to what we have?

why not just invite Sadam ove here to tell us how we should vote and establish a government?? Im sure thats what they feel like we are doing.... and if you think they hate our freedoms then why is Bush taking them away?? Is it giving the terrorist less reasons to hate us??

[Psycho4Bud]

If you really think that each Iraqi is going out and particapting in elections to find a leader you are wacthing too much Fox News and not enough real news

A 72% voter turnout in the face of threats and violence is pretty damn good. Hell, that's a better turnout than we see here in the states.

... there is a war going on there... (and your previous post - we did go in because of 9/11 and because of WMDs.... the third things we went into Iraq for was to AFTER WE REMOVED the wmd's and dictator and found the terrorists in Iraq. Then we were spose to help them set up a free government)

Broken U.N. resolutions, paying families of Martyrs, WMDs which are in Syria now(according to a Syrian journalist and an ex-Iraqi General)

That's not what is happening, they don't vote and it doesn't matter... they don't have a government and it's been 3 years since MISSION ACOMPLISHED.


They didn't even vote? Did ya miss that one? They voted twice in elections and once on the constitution.

I am suggesting that they follow the path our founders did where they gave EACH AND EVERY state the power of the central government. Something we have forgotten since we have a dictator. Bush is trying to set up Iraw like america and when 28% of the people he rules don't like him you think another country is going to be happy about changing to what we have?

The Iraqis have created their own system of democracy. Bush didn't set up nothing except for the first coallition provisional authority which was closed when Iraqi leaders took over.

why not just invite Sadam ove here to tell us how we should vote and establish a government?? Im sure thats what they feel like we are doing.... and if you think they hate our freedoms then why is Bush taking them away?? Is it giving the terrorist less reasons to hate us??

LOL....try again! 80% of that country was held poor and persecuted by the Bathists and Saddam. The Kurds and Shi-ites were more than pleased to see him go....which is why out of the 18 providences in Iraq there is only 3 with any type of insurgency.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Gumby]

Don't know where you get all your news... oh wait, Fox.. but just to let you know the 'Real World' doesn't quite agree with you...

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/arti...ew/3420/1/167/

Three years after U.S. forces captured Baghdad, Iraqis are suffering from unprecedented violence and misery. Although Saddam Hussein was indeed one of the world's most brutal tyrants, the no-fly zones and arms embargo in place for more than a dozen years prior to his ouster had severely weakened his capacity to do violence against his own people. Today, the level of violent deaths is not only far higher than during his final years in power, but the sheer randomness of the violence has left millions of Iraqis in a state of perpetual terror. At least 30,000 Iraqi civilians have died, most of them at the hands of U.S. forces but increasingly from terrorist groups and Iraqi government death squads. Thousands more soldiers and police have also been killed. Violent crime, including kidnapping, rape, and armed robbery, is at record levels. There is a proliferation of small arms, and private militias are growing rapidly. A Lebanon-type multifaceted civil war, only on a much wider and deadlier scale, grows more likely with time.

Over 50,000 Iraqis have been imprisoned by U.S. forces since the invasion, but only 1.5% of them have been convicted of any crime. Currently, U.S. forces hold 15,000 to 18,000 Iraqi prisoners, more than were imprisoned under Saddam Hussein. Amnesty International and other human rights groups have cited U.S. forces with widespread violations of international humanitarian law, including torture and other abuses of prisoners.

It is not just the fear of arrest and torture that have worsened since the U.S. conquest of Iraq three years ago. Although the destruction of the civilian infrastructure during the heavy U.S.-led bombing campaign in 1991 combined with the subsequent economic sanctions led to enormous suffering among ordinary Iraqis, the United Nations' Oil-for-Food program, despite the abuses, did substantially improve the quality of life in the years preceding the U.S. invasion. Now, deaths from malnutrition and preventable diseases, particularly among children, are again on the increase. The supply of drinking water, reliability of electricity, and effectiveness of sewage disposal are all worse than before the invasion.

As much as half of the labor force is unemployed, and the cost of living has skyrocketed. The median income of Iraqis has declined by more than half. The UN's World Food Program (WFP) reports that the Iraqi people suffer from â??significant countrywide shortages of rice, sugar, milk, and infant formula,â?� and the WFP documents approximately 400,000 Iraqi children suffering from â??dangerous deficiencies of protein.â?� Oil production, the country's chief source of revenue, is less than half of what it was before the invasion. And despite Bush administration promises to infuse billions of dollars worth of foreign aid to rebuild the country's civilian infrastructure, only a small fraction of these ventures have been completed, and most projects have been cancelled. Close to one million Iraqis, most of them from the vital, educated middle class, have left the country to avoid the violence and hardship brought on as a result of the U.S. invasion.

Despite all this, a Harris poll at the end of December showed that a majority of Americans believe the Bush administration's claims that Iraqis are better off now than they were under Saddam Hussein. Most Iraqis polled say just the opposite.

[Psycho4Bud]

Don't know where you get all your news... oh wait, Fox.. but just to let you know the 'Real World' doesn't quite agree with you...

You know what happens when you assume? LOL NO, Fox news isn't my main news source!

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/arti...ew/3420/1/167/

Three years after U.S. forces captured Baghdad, Iraqis are suffering from unprecedented violence and misery. Although Saddam Hussein was indeed one of the world's most brutal tyrants, the no-fly zones and arms embargo in place for more than a dozen years prior to his ouster had severely weakened his capacity to do violence against his own people. Today, the level of violent deaths is not only far higher than during his final years in power, but the sheer randomness of the violence has left millions of Iraqis in a state of perpetual terror. At least 30,000 Iraqi civilians have died, most of them at the hands of U.S. forces but increasingly from terrorist groups and Iraqi government death squads. Thousands more soldiers and police have also been killed. Violent crime, including kidnapping, rape, and armed robbery, is at record levels. There is a proliferation of small arms, and private militias are growing rapidly. A Lebanon-type multifaceted civil war, only on a much wider and deadlier scale, grows more likely with time.

Now that shit is funny! This is NOTHING like Lebanon! There is an insurgency but one by one the groups are giving up and the people of Iraq are the ones forcing them to.

Over 50,000 Iraqis have been imprisoned by U.S. forces since the invasion, but only 1.5% of them have been convicted of any crime. Currently, U.S. forces hold 15,000 to 18,000 Iraqi prisoners, more than were imprisoned under Saddam Hussein. Amnesty International and other human rights groups have cited U.S. forces with widespread violations of international humanitarian law, including torture and other abuses of prisoners.

The U.S. is in charge of very few prisoners of war these days, it's the Iraqi government! Let them handle their justice in their own way.....like you stated, we shouldn't try to "Americanize" that area. Let them do it their way!

It is not just the fear of arrest and torture that have worsened since the U.S. conquest of Iraq three years ago. Although the destruction of the civilian infrastructure during the heavy U.S.-led bombing campaign in 1991 combined with the subsequent economic sanctions led to enormous suffering among ordinary Iraqis, the United Nations' Oil-for-Food program, despite the abuses, did substantially improve the quality of life in the years preceding the U.S. invasion. Now, deaths from malnutrition and preventable diseases, particularly among children, are again on the increase. The supply of drinking water, reliability of electricity, and effectiveness of sewage disposal are all worse than before the invasion.

Another joke! The only places that the infrustructure isn't better than before is in the three providences that had ALL the electricity, sewage, etc...and the insurgents blow up anything new being built. Even in the face of that, USAID has given Sadr City it's first running water, sewage system, and electricity. OH NO....the Bathists have to share!!!

As much as half of the labor force is unemployed, and the cost of living has skyrocketed. The median income of Iraqis has declined by more than half. The UN's World Food Program (WFP) reports that the Iraqi people suffer from â??significant countrywide shortages of rice, sugar, milk, and infant formula,â?� and the WFP documents approximately 400,000 Iraqi children suffering from â??dangerous deficiencies of protein.â?� Oil production, the country's chief source of revenue, is less than half of what it was before the invasion. And despite Bush administration promises to infuse billions of dollars worth of foreign aid to rebuild the country's civilian infrastructure, only a small fraction of these ventures have been completed, and most projects have been cancelled. Close to one million Iraqis, most of them from the vital, educated middle class, have left the country to avoid the violence and hardship brought on as a result of the U.S. invasion.

Oil production at the present time is at 1.6 mb/d as opposed to the 2.5mb/d pre-war. One of the reasons for this is the reconstruction of a neglected oil infrustructure and also insurgent attacks. At the present, the northern pipeline is down for repairs witch contributes a minimum of .5mb/d production. A Norwegian oil company has found a new vein in the Kurdish area which has spurred great interest for investment from the Brits...etc.

Pre 1991 thier currency exchange rate was at 3.29US:1IQD before the last war it was at 2000IQD:1US now after 80%-100% of the $120 billion debt has been forgiven they are looking at a revalue of their currency which could be VERY soon.
How did they deposit an additional $2 billion into foreign banks if their in such desperate times?

Despite all this, a Harris poll at the end of December showed that a majority of Americans believe the Bush administration's claims that Iraqis are better off now than they were under Saddam Hussein. Most Iraqis polled say just the opposite.

LOL....which Iraqi poll are you going by....BAGDADS?

I have a link in my signature for Iraqi Dinar.....check it out once.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Gumby]

that wasn't a poll that was a news article... and here are plenty more...

http://english.people.com.cn/200605/...13_265353.html

http://www.arabamericannews.com/news...articleid=5227

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate...n/14569842.htm

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/inde...m/itemID/11848

http://www.pasadenaweekly.com/articl...96&IssueNum=19

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2006/s1636606.htm

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/794/re63.htm

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/..._has_been.html

should I keep going... cause those were the articles for the last 2 days... should I try to find all of them for the week?? you're not dealing with an idiot and your propaganda shit doesn't work on me... I need more than one source to believe something and when you can do a yahoo search for Iraq and pull up nothing but negatives, something isn't going right...