reality is...

[Kid Dynamite]

its a cold winters day. you see someone out of your window, all wrapped up in a coat and a scarf and a hat. You assume its a person But how do you really know whats under the clothes? It could be a robot...or there could be nothing under there. All human beings base their lives on assumptions, but if the knowledge that those assumptions are based on is incorrect, if human beings are being decieved in some way, then there is no way of proving that anything really exists.

[Az.]

take physics for example, people think ooohhhh science proves things....when really you can only make theories with substantial evidence you cannot prove any particular theory....

if you could then thered be no speculation about religion and physics and we would know the general theory of everything

even Socrates said â??The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.â?�
and that was what.....2500 years ago?

[OtterPop]

What if our universe started out as not quite real, a sort of illusion, as the Hindu religion teaches, and God, out of love and kindness for us, is slowly transmuting it, slowly and secretly, into smomething real.

[OtterPop]

We are bound by language

[Az.]

What if our universe started out as not quite real, a sort of illusion, as the Hindu religion teaches, and God, out of love and kindness for us, is slowly transmuting it, slowly and secretly, into smomething real.

what would we be leading to? Death? The reality of death?

hahaha to be honest I really need to sleep......

[OtterPop]

It is proper to say : we appear to be memory coils (DNA carriers capable of experience) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiential information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from all other life forms, there is a malfunction --a failure-- of memory retrieval. There lies the trouble in our particular subcircuit. "Savlation" through gnosis ==more properly anamnesis(the loss of amnesia)- Although it has individual significance for each of us --- a quantum leap in perception, identity, cognition, understanding, world and self experience, including immortality. It has greater and further importance for the system as aw hole inasmuch as the memories are data needed by it and valuable to it, to its overall functioning.

The acients possessed techniques( sacraments and rituals_ used largely in the Greco-Roman mystery religions, including EARLY CHRISTIANITY, to induce firing and retrieval, mainly with a sense of its restorative value to the individuals; the Gnostics, however, correctly saw the ontological value to what they called the "Godhead" itself, the total entity

[TheLion]

I'll tell you what I tell everyone else who asks. I have an answer to every question in the universe, whether it's the "correct" one is beyond me.

[BestTonicIsChronic]

Wow you guys sound like me, challenging concepts of reality. LoL. Thats me in a nutshell for like the past month, I can get it out of my head, its getting hard to accept reality as it is.

[VoidLivesOn]

Sorry was what I said mean? I just didn't know what you guys were talking about.

[graph]

I've read about five seperate articles in which doctors say the mind is nothing like a computer, but a garden.

Think about it, a computer has a set amount of memory. What it "knows" is simply information fed to it.

Now let's look at a garden. I can take one flower, and make a garden full of many different diverse and amazing flowers. Once that one flower is there, it will continue to spread until more come, and with that, it will attract other sources which will bring other types of plants. It will continue to grow and grow until it is met with death, though that death may be from a number of entities.



Okay, now for reality.

The Matrix stole an age-old belief, that the only reason why things are the way they are is it because it is agreed. For example, that desk it there because we all agree it's there. That building is there because it is the collected belief that it is there. The majority dictates what exists and what doesn't exist. Who's to say that people with auditory and visual schizophrenia aren't seeing real people that the majority are incapapble of seeing?


And now for a new thought entirely.

How do you know that the red you see is the red I see? What if the red you see is actually my yellow? How would we know? Could we ever know?