WOMEN!!!

[eddievanzant]

ed...why are yu so scared of condoms?

I'm not. If there's no other protection, in most cases condoms should be used.

And fyi...there is no 100% guarantee of no stds unless you practice abstinence.

Yes there is: Only having sex with someone you know for certain has no STDs. Even so, that is irrellevent to condom use.

And please stop trying to bait with your hate..remember your previous words about me so pleease just stop your psuedo intelligence,,,

I didn't bait or hate. I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm not pseudo-intelligent. I don't wear pseudo-intelligent glasses, and I don't misuse lesser known words to appear more intelligent. I am intelligent, and I cannot be stopped!

your just young and dumb and full of

That's the problem. Just because I'm young doesn't mean I'm dumb. You're the one who feels the need to bring up my age, and if it weren't for you knowing my age, it wouldn't make a difference to you. If I lied and said I was thirty, you'd immediately have to change your argument which proves that your argument sucks. Age is irrellevent to this argument and you bring it up because you are stupid.
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....its your life...have unprotected sex hanging from a tree for all I care...

That actually seems like a way to spice up a relationship. I know you were just being sarcastic, but fucking on a hammock might be fun]

you know nothing to know so much...

This is either something that you need to explain or something you just typed to seem more insightful and whatnot. I'm betting on the latter.

and your age is a factor...

To you. (I don't know how old you are, but I think you're between 25 and 35 so) I've been around people twice and thrice your age who have expected simply another dumb teenager, but immediately after meeting me began to respect me just as much they would as an adult. The only difference is that adults are assumed to be mature, whereas I'm forced to prove that I can speak as a peer with adults. I don't mind.

learn that and you may live to understand.

I understand why it matters in real life: In real life, age is immediately given away by looks. Looks lead to prejudgements. Here, that doesn't matter. If you didn't bother to click my profile, you wouldn't know my age. You still don't need to know my age.

Stop telling misinformation about condoms...

Stop implying I was giving misinformation unless you cite your reference.

why wouldn't you rather chisel your chances by using a condom instead of coming up with negative points about them...

I've never heard someone use chisel in that way so I cannot understand the first part of that comment, but regarding the second one, I don't think I've based my argument on the negativities of condom use. If I had, I wouldn't have forgotten to mention that condoms decrease pleasure for men.

breakage is usually caused by old,dry condoms and people that are not sure how to put them on correctly...

Regardless, condoms are not always effective. You need to encourage proper use of condoms; not just use of condoms.

maybe you could buy a pack and practice...might save your life and others ed.

Along with not being a complete idiot who doesn't know how to put a condom on (I might have South Park to thank for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_Condom_Use gave me a better education on the application of a condom than my sex ed class), I have practiced.

Ignorance and excuses are not healthy concerning stds in this day and time...didn't you learn this in sex ed?

I didn't learn that via sex ed; I knew that because I have common sense. Ignorance is never a good thing, even when an ignorant person is on the (supposed) right side. I.E., a person who believes condoms must be worn at all times to protect against STDs may help that person avoid STDs, but that person is still ignorant and that can lead to other problems.

[birdgirl73]

All I can say is you must be very stoned right now--or else very much a black-and-white thinker who can't accurately read what others have been saying. No one has been telling you what to think or insinuiating anything about you. Notice the word "if" that was used in that sentence. Please re-read these posts when you're in a clearer state of mind. I've been married and monogamous for two decades. So no, I don't use condoms. And there are circumstances where folks don't have to--like that. No more exchanges with you, please. I think you must be upset about other things and are just feeling like flaming others.

[eddievanzant]

Alright now...learn not to tell me what to do girl:thumbsup: As for your insinuation of me having multiple patners...your full of crap And even in a monogamous relationship condoms should be worn unless attempting conception. There are NO circumstances where unprotected sex whether with one or more is safe...You obviously need some sex ed yourself...do yourself a favor and learn about stds...stop misinformation.:thumbsup: And just for fyi...it would be impossible for me to wear a condom for men considering I am a female...love yourself enough to make your partner wear a condom..but its not my life...so whatever your choice is..is exactly that...your choice...just remember...unprotected sex CAN and WILL kill people.

A person with multiple partners should be more in favor of condoms. You are in more favor of condoms so if she was insinuating that you're a whore, it's understandable.

All I can say is you must be very stoned right now--or else very much a black-and-white thinker who can't accurately read what others have been saying. No one has been telling you what to think or insinuiating anything about you. Notice the word "if" that was used in that sentence. Please re-read these posts when you're in a clearer state of mind. I've been married and monogamous for two decades. So no, I don't use condoms. And there are circumstances where folks don't have to--like that. No more exchanges with you, please. I think you must be upset about other things and are just feeling like flaming others.

While you may be looking for a reason for why she is so pro safe-sex, I wouldn't think it's the weed. I'd say it;s either because she's mad about something else, like you said, or that she is fucking crazy! Maybe I should ask her. Shelbay, why are you so pro safe-sex? Are you fucking crazy?

[birdgirl73]

That post above wasn't to you, Eddie, as you probably know. I was trying to explain to Shelbay that folks aren't out to get her. They're simply stating their own opinions. This whole thing exhausts me. This forums if for folks to have good exchanges. I'm signing off for the night, and I hope Shelbay will go teach the sex ed class she so desperately feels everyone needs and lay off lecturing others here who are mature enough to be responsible for themselves.

[birdgirl73]

I wasn't insinuating that. I think y'all both know that. Be nice. Good night.

[Shelbay]

That post above wasn't to you, Eddie, as you probably know. I was trying to explain to Shelbay that folks aren't out to get her. They're simply stating their own opinions. This whole thing exhausts me. This forums if for folks to have good exchanges. I'm signing off for the night, and I hope Shelbay will go teach the sex ed class she so desperately feels everyone needs and lay off lecturing others here who are mature enough to be responsible for themselves.

I will sponsor the "class" for anyone that would like to participate...especially if it means stopping the spread of stds....I am calling your bluff..any takers? I WILL pay travel expenses and lodging. And at my age I am POSITIVE there is nothing you can "explain" to me about safe sex. And please don't feel I am desperate ...far from it...I just see the end results of passionate,unprotected sex most days so please sweetie don't think having unprotected sex is a "mature decision"...and remember your post saying others are only stating their opinions?? Well look at it that way where I am concerned...but the std rate in the world is FACT not opinion.:thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

I wasn't insinuating that. I think y'all both know that. Be nice. Good night.

Good night...nice exchange with no name calling or insults..thanks.:thumbsup: Be safe.

[birdgirl73]

Good night to you, too, Shelbay! Thanks for taking the high road. I feel like we had a good discussion! And while I'm at it, thanks for being passionate and articulate about a topic that is indeed very important. You're quite right that STD statistics don't lie. And I know that better than you may think. I'm the daughter of a physician and the wife of another. This year, after 22 years of marriage and a long corporate career, I've just been accepted to medical school myself. I'm still debating about whether or not to turn my life upside down and go for it, and right now it's a moot point anyway because I have a sister who's very ill with cancer and who needs my nursing care at the moment. Anyway, that's a long way of saying you're actually preaching to the choir here. I think we may be closer to being on the same page than you realize. Take care, and I'll talk to you again on the boards!

[minnesota man]

Kudos to Flaming Skull Balls for this magnificent thread.

[weezy]

someone should stick a big condom an shelbays head
then u can go around tellin everyone they have to wear condoms all the time
your worse than a priest,throwin your advice at people like that.
its each individuals choice wat they do with there life and wether they suit up.

if im with a partner thats on the pill then i wont wear any raincoat and im sure lots of couples are the same out there.

if we catch anything then fuck it,it will b our own fault and u can say "i told u so"