The TRUTH behind drug testing

[Branall1]

Federal regulations require that at minimum 50% of all registered CDL drivers be submitted to a random 5-panel drug screen (The NIDA 5). The company I worked for ran what is known as a "consortium". Because DOT requires 50% of all drivers to be tested, it's kinda hard to hit that number if you are just an owner operator. What we did was for companies with less than 5 CDLs, we grouped them in with one of our consortiums, so random selections were pulled from the consortium as a whole (A consortium could have as many as 10,000 drivers in it) and as long as the consortium remained compliant, DOT considered the members of the consortium compliant.

DOT also requires a pre-employment drug screen before a driver is allowed to drive for that company. There is also another weird requirement that most people don't understand. DOT also requires that a driver be subject to random selection at all times. This presents a problem, because normally random selections are done quarterly (4 times per year, not necessarily every 3 months) This means that if you were hired in march (The end of the first quarter) you not only have to take your pre-employment, but litterally a couple days later you could get hit with a random. Wasteful government over-babysitting at it's finest.

Now, random selections are a bear. When your company receives the notice that your employee ID has been pulled for random selection, they are required to notify you as soon as possible, and to instruct you to proceed immediately to the closest DOT approved collection facility. Companies normally keep forms as a part of a truckers "road packet" and require their drivers to have a copy on them at all times they are behind the wheel. This does not give much time for hydration or any other sort of trickery.

Once you arrive at the collection facility, your sample is collected (un-supervised, which is where a whizinator would come in handy) and sealed in a special "split-specimine" cup. DOT requires a sample to be split into two containers. In the event of a positive result, the trucker has a right to have the second sample re-tested immediately. DOT tests are still screened the "old-fashioned" way, with an on-site kit. As long as you can pass that, you should be free and clear. The sample won't even be given a second look (second looks at negative tests take time, and time=money).

If your sample fails the preliminary, it is sent in for quantitive analysis. This is where they take a sample and run it through GC/MS to determine the actual amounts of the substances in the sample. Once it is found that a test is "positive", the results are sent to a doctor for "medical review". The doctor acts as an impartial third party to review the test results with the patient and discover, hopefully, any medical explination for the results (Example, prescription medications). One the medical review is done, it is then handed to the employer as either "confirmed negative" or "confirmed positive".

The employer has several requirements in regards to how to handle a positive test. Immediate firing is not always an option, and the regulations require a referal to a "substance abuse" clinic. Unfortunaltey, once you are hit with a positive test, they test the hell out of you if you want to go back to work. You have to submit proof of the completion of a "DOT approved" substance abuse rehab. You are then required to be tested monthly (I can't remember, I'm pretty sure it's monthly) for the next 6 months to as long as 3 years depending on the recomendation of your therapist.

That's pretty much drug testing for truckers in a nutshell. I am about to take a walk with my family now, it's a nice warm evening. I'll be back on later if anyone else has any questions.

Brandon

[Bigg Cellus]

Brandon,
Thanks for the info-this is what I have been wanting to know for awhile. Gives me something to think about. I hope you and the fam enjoy the walk.

BiggCellus

[Branall1]

Two more notes. For those of you that have to resort to "clean" or "Sythetic" urine, I cannot stress enough about temperature. Termperature has to be right or it's an instant red flag. No human on earth pisses cold, it's not possible. Remember, these collections are routine. If you are cool, and your sample smells like urine, is yellow and is within 2 degrees of 98, you are golden.

Point 2: For DOT tests, a missed test is treated the same way as a positive. Do not skip out on a required test. Also, if you do get caught with an adulterated or substituted test, DOT requires an immediate re-test (immediate being within the next day) under direct supervision. A person (of like gender) will watch you piss into a cup. I mean litterally watch. No back turned, no stall. Watched.

Going walking now.

B

[BloodyRedBarron]

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[eGGNoG]

i dont get randomed any more from my school, its up to me when i want to take the drug test but i still need to do it once a month... any "best" options? it would be at my doctor cus i need to bring a paper or whatever saying i passed... i was thinking using someone elses piss but i dont know if i can make it eexactly 98 degrees or 2 within.. i know if oy utake vitamin B pills or one whatever, it makes your piss like colored, so if i take one of those and dillute the shit outta me, how good of a chance ill pass? if i fail im going to juvi.. i got till like this weekend to decide. if im ganna keep toking , good looks on all the info though mah dood. pZ.

[PaRanOiD81]

what do you think about taking certo to try and pass the drug test?

[Branall1]

Read my second post in this thread for my opinion of "detox" products.

Generally, they are total crap and a waste of money.

B

[DonnieDarko]

Read my second post in this thread for my opinion of "detox" products.

Generally, they are total crap and a waste of money.

B

There was a very smart guy on this board last year, IamN2Pot, who had the same opinion on detox products. He posted very clear posts on dilution and substitution. It's great to have a live expert on the board again ... but some people you won't be able to convince.

IMO, this is the most important forum on this message board. Your help is appreciated.

[toke it up 420]

thanks, great info



ps shrooms arent on any drug tests(tyrptoids or somethin like that)
piss tests that is
even on 10 panel!

[eGGNoG]

well cus they stay in your body for like a day right? why bother checking usually people arent THAT dumb.