2x during bloom?

[Kush Over]

..Personaly that plant looks small =/...

LoL. I assure you, it was entirely my intention of doing just that -- 'making the plant small'. It was primarily due to a short vegetative cycle of 25 days, again something I anticipated would occur because -- it was my intent!

Why? Because she's a sativa dominant strain -- lesser yield, better quality -- and I wouldn't want her to outgrow the yard tall box she's in. I was always lead to believe the plant would stretch three times their height -- and by the way, they do. LoL. This one just doesn't show that well because of 'The Rack' and the HST, but the first two plants of this strain stretched from about 1.3 feet to almost 4.2 feet, primarily because they weren't trained.

"B-B-But inadequate lighting!"

Not when they were grown with sunlight -- taken out for so many hours during the day; then brought back in when they've had their fill of radiation.

Besides, the most recent picture in my last post does the plant no justice. The buds look much nicer now the plant's worked itself out of the lock-out -- the buds have at least grown 30% larger.

..From my experiences i have grown like that also i feel the plant has Bigger buds and more when you allow the plant to turn into a Teenager i call em Seems to me if you had veged that plant more like tell it was 3 feet or more would it of shot up like that?..

Turn into a teenager? I'm not quite sure exactly what to think of this. I wasn't aware we referred to plant's age with those terms. Thirteen to ninteen inclusive -- days, months, years? LoL

Or maybe you're referring to the preflowers? I bet that's it. In that case, preflowers did show before the flowering cycle induction. Typically, though, I follow the Bible [ and the Professionals / Experts ] on this and go for a few sets of alternating nodes to go with those preflowers -- which is what I did in this case.

Would she of shot up? I don't know, what's your thinking and experience tell you? Personally I think you're trying to cover your own ass on a fucking mistake that spawned off of the 'Has to be said.' thread. LoL. But, to be fair I'll tell you why it looks like the plant is tall and stretched.

I trimmed all the lower growth off that plant that I didn't want to keep or I felt was going to inhibit the flowering cycle. She was much bushier than that before the last picture was taken -- you couldn't possibly seen through one side to the other before I pruned her. Stretched my ass. I've got a 150w HPS on a two square foot area and just this one plant -- 16,000 initial lumens, 13,500 mean lumens after like eight hours of being on. There's not even space between the nodes -- it's all bud! LoL

LoL. I can't believe I'm actually reading this shit. "Man, that looks stretched.."
Sativa dominant in flowering. D-D-Duhh!

I thought you've been growing for like ten years, man. You've never grown out a sativa, or even a sativa dominant hybrid?

..( form what i have seen a plant only does the crazy groth when you try and bud them to small the plant thinks it would not get enouf sunlight and thus shot up like it was contending with other plants for light)..

Again, your sole.. experiences.

While I have seen plants contend for light with others I have yet to see a plant contend with itself for light -- it doesn't make sense. Sativas and sativa dominant strains s----t----r----e----t----c----h at the internodes -- this isn't i-n-d-i-c-a. Maybe you're thinking of a dumbass who tries planting in the fucking shade -- I don't know? LoL

It either stretches at the internodes or stem to look for light; or it produces more nodes [ alternating or corresponding ] which gives it a stretching effect, but that's hardly considered stretching. Or if they're under artificial light and there's multiple plants one plant might gain dominance by virtue of position beneath the light, and all the light from whatever spectrum the bulb has that reflects from the plant's leaves down to the smaller plants will be almost devoid of the usable spectrum's, thus causing a stretch.
Again, not my plant, as she's a loner.

..From my Exp i have seen your roots at the 12/12 transfer decide everything higth and bud size and that pic would prove my theory because from my exp if you had let her turn teenager and a better root hold she would of been 2X's thicker Buds ..... Whats your option ?..

That picture?

Uh, which one? This isn't another one of your experiences again, is it?
I'm sorry, bro. But this plant's root system is fine for the pot she's in. I've yielded three ounces from a gallon and a half worth of organic mulch and amendments; I think I could probably do a little better with a larger plant and medium.

We still don't understand your theory, to be honest. A better root hold? Dude, we already discussed mycorrhizal fungi, and I already gave the soil a shot of LazyMan Soil Conditioner at the time of soil preparation, which contains mycorrhizae. I'd much rather a US quarter diameter sized stalk, though. I think that's proof enough of the root efficiency, to be honest. In my experience. I think. LoL

Again, this teenager shit pervades me. Elaborate.

..my shit is allways like 7foot tall if held up but shits hanging around 5 foot due to buds weight) But i also grow hella crazy i Trellis my stuff like a Grape vine im getting about 5+oz per plant in hydryton with a water ring with the bubbler in tubes each unit is a bucket (copy of the drip ring working off of the air pumps)..

Seven feet tall? I don't go macro growing, especially unnecessary amounts of it. How long does it take you to get that height of a plant? I'm not willing to wait it, that's all that matters to me.

Trellis? Wow. And the invention of the SCRoG has been blown out of the water by a --- vertical SCRoG? LoL

Most people look for stealth and height control! Not Krogith! He'll grow up a fucking lattice wall!

..is that a CLEAR BOWL? it's in ? hydro is not fair to compair to durt IMO SORRY =):smokin: what do you think would of happend if it had a better root establishment tho ?..

Yes, it's a clear bowl. No, roots don't give a fuck about the light. Argue if you want, I've had light up to partially dirt covered roots and they were fine.
If it had a better root establishment? Uh, it'd be a bigger plant? LoL.

Something I don't want, I assure you. And I'm sure the plant's roots are just fine with the presence of mycorrhizal fungi in the medium.

Your right the smaller they are the more they strechin height. Seems like I get alot more from a bigger plant when flowered. What happens is the smaller the lights the smaller the plant when you flower. Tha light can only penetrate the top one third, so they start small. I am going to try 2 foot and 3 foot to see the difference. I read a guy on here was getting 4 pounds off a 1000HPS and 4 plants. Awsome.

What light?

LoL. You think I use those lights illuminating the plant in the pictures to grow with?

I use a 150w HPS, and it penetrates to the bottom. Again, proof of this is from nearly 35% of the original plant's weight in removed vegetative mass I had to cut off the plant before the final picture was taken. They were slowing it down, I say, slowing it down!

Kush Over Reviewed by Kush Over on 05-08-2006. 2x during bloom? i have grown for 10 years and have never seen a plant being swiched to 12/12 or a outdoor thats budding grow 2X it was during veg......:smokin: i have seen from a 15% -40% groth in HIGTH im not talking bud size im talking higth. I have now read that someones claimeing 2x talller - 3x taller....... They are claiming a 3 ft plant at veg would then be a 6-9ft plant when done? this sounds obserd can anyone clarfy on this? From my experiences everyone one in cali grows like me and i conversate and Rating: 5