clones in r'wool...dying due to heatstress? or,

[latewood]

removed dead cuttings and replaced with a few new cuttings for 2nd try...I put just enough water to fill up the
pattern on bottom of propagation tray. I did not flood...
I sprayed top of inside of cover to add a little humidity.
I sprayed them with an anti-wilt spray...they look fine 24 hours in. tick tick tick tick...

A day into '2nd try' there is no humidity/moisture on cover.

should I add more water to tray?...I don't want to drown them.

Is it OK to have more water because the top of starter and stem is allowed to breath?...In all my readings, I cannot find a clear explanation for this process, beyond the standard how-to tutorial's.

Is it a bad idea to have fan blowing into cabinet?...I have a little fan to circulate air to cool 42w cfl.

Should I remove fan and allow cabinet to warm up?...thus creating humidity and higher temps?

any help would be appreciated. lw

[del...]

what kind of water are you using? i use only distilled as tap water has never worked very well for clones.

keep water in the bottom of the tray at all times. it doesn't need to be flooded but there should always be a little.

keep them under the dome except for short breaks 1-2 times/day. if there's no moisture inside the dome it only means the air is also pretty dry. no prob as long as the cuttings are kept damp and in water. i spray a lot during the rooting...distilled water only. but i don't see how spraying the underside of the dome will help...

i keep a fan going at all times even if they're under the dome just to keep air circulating and helps with damp-off (my theory as it's rare here). and like i already said, i spray a lot...

i also only use flouro's until they're well rooted.

as far as temps, i keep it no lower than 70 and no higher than 90.

there will be some tweaking of the above due to damp-off and your ambient humidity vs mine (it's usually single digits here) but i get 80-85% of my cuttings through by faithfully following what's above...as shown to me by sly of bros grimm fame years ago. only diff now is i use jiffy cubes and we used grodan cubes then...same results it's just easier for me to go into the soil with the jiffy cubes.

[latewood]

1st off...thanks alot Del.:dance: I am surprised you don't know that I use and preach ROwater...So we are on same page there. I have added a couple drops of superthrive...

you basically described exactly what I got going now.:thumbsup:

I would've been alright before, I'm pretty sure, had the 'ol lady not melted them!

I try to follow the same simple direction's whenever I do old school...anyway, thanks for the clarification. We are on course...

I just looked at them and they looked fine. But so did the last batch on day 3...LOL:smokin:

In reference to jiffy plugs...I use rapid rooters now...my seedlings love them. They also transplant effortlessly into hydro and soil/less mediums

thanks again, lw

[Zandor]

Well you should have never mentiooned tornados.. cuase that stole all the attention away from the thread.. cause I am about to produce a show for cable about Tornados.. I will be chasing tornados in tornado alley from May 16th to June 16th.. I am so excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!


tell me about tornados..

yummy
: )
ilove tornados

Hey GK you should contact JimBones...he is chasing them right now. He has been a tornado chaser for many years. He has lots of flim on them as well.

[del...]

here's a semi-current thread from marihemp with methods others use...and sanclem is sort of the resident pro over there.

http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/msg9x43086.shtml

[Garden Knowm]

Hey GK you should contact JimBones...he is chasing them right now. He has been a tornado chaser for many years. He has lots of flim on them as well.

WOW.. no shit... and he lives near me too..

Latewood..
FYI.. I have never used a fan on clones.
Never used anything but tap water...
I never spray clones with anything except wilt spray (I do this when I stick them in the rockwool)

I do keep water about 1/2 inch in the bottom of the tray and then let it dry out completely...(not the cubes) Then I refill the bottom of the tray again.. 1/2 inch...

I never water the cloneds directly.. just water the tray and let the cubes absorb the water..

My dome almost always has misture build.. up... like del said.. I also take the dome off to let the moisture out once in a while.

I have had mold once or wtwice grow on the clones.. I took the dome off and the mold went away!!


iloveyou

[latewood]

thanks all...GK, I am balancing around what you said...
I had the fan in the box due to 2 seedlings, but I can move them...I thought that the fan might be robbing the humidity and that is why dome has no moisture...I added more water as per your instruction's after checking and fnding rockwool on the dry side...thanks to both of you...

Del, I will check out the link, thanks...

crazy thing is...I have a very successful cloning program going, but have never used the rockwool. I hate not being proficient in all aspects of what we do...

My new 'Motto' You have to kill a few; To create a few! lol

good day...lw

[latewood]

here are 4 piks...

Look how good this one took...
and this one,
and this one too

this last one, gave me this thought:

I have made a determination, when it comes to trimming up cuttings...you can actually take TOO MUCH and they will wilt. I left more foliage on these clones and they rooted quicker...

I note this, because I used to have a really high success rate, and then I started really trimming cuttings to allow for root growth...well you have to have enough cutting to allow it to wilt and reveg itself...so leaving a little more leaf and having the process take longer is better than a 50% effort that rooted faster. Imho

lw

[Bender]

congrats LW.. Looks good.. I have been watching this thread to see how others do it and I think I may have learned a few new tricks myself..


BTW I'm in the north end of tornado alley.. :upsidedow

[latewood]

planted the babies in 4" cups fill with

hyponex, soil
black velvet compost
and foxfarm large perlite.

spritzing 3-4x's a day with ph'd rowater* w/superthrive, *Swampwater is what I call my r'wool soaking water. It is ph'd with superthrive added. I soak my r'wool starters in a bucket filled w/3gallons. After I place seeds or cuttings in starters, I recycle the swampwater fro spritzing, etc.:smokin:

lw