rugby wasnt a sport offered to me growing up. i played football, it did pay for my education for about two years, but couldnt keep up grades. then joined the marines where i got a real education......as for sports, now i only lift weights, i cant afford to get hurt and not work. it looks like youd have to be in great shape to play rugby, i like the fact that you keep on playing, not many time outs....but the sport i wished i played was soccer...now thats football.....as for juice i keep my test at 500 mg per week ,when i need to cut, i throw in 75mg fina eod for 12 weeks... and of course under doctors supervision:thumbsup: