Myth from an old stoner, or the truth?

[DraconiusAldavo]

Ok, so my uncle, who I have the most respect for in the world, is a very heavy smoker, probably goes through 1/8 a day or more, and is almost always an "intellectual" high. He talks about philosophy and religion a lot, and I've probably seen him totally sober about 5 times my entire life. His weapon of choice is a little brass pipe w/ a screw-on top to cover the bowl for transport. He's a very efficient smoker, and never lets extra weed burn after his hits. Here's my question: he swears by the pipe and I've seen him smoke out of his glass pipe, and out of a vaporizer before, and sure enough he is the typical lethargic and stupid high with those two alternative methods... so is it really the pipe that makes it different? I mean I could try to b.s. some justification by saying the air intake is controlled differently with a pipe, but I'd like some more experienced people to verify/reject this idea. I'm thinking about buying my first piece since I'm moving out of the hellhole known as a dormitory and into an apartment soon. I'm thinking about a pipe, but my uncle could be totally full of it. Advice, suggestions? A little more info would be great, as I'm looking for the best ways to conserve weed without having some ghetto setup(don't get me wrong, grav bongs and sprite bottle bongs are great, but not too classy or permanent for that matter). Thanks!

DraconiusAldavo Reviewed by DraconiusAldavo on 05-05-2006. Myth from an old stoner, or the truth? Ok, so my uncle, who I have the most respect for in the world, is a very heavy smoker, probably goes through 1/8 a day or more, and is almost always an "intellectual" high. He talks about philosophy and religion a lot, and I've probably seen him totally sober about 5 times my entire life. His weapon of choice is a little brass pipe w/ a screw-on top to cover the bowl for transport. He's a very efficient smoker, and never lets extra weed burn after his hits. Here's my question: he swears by Rating: 5

[willystylle]

I'm no expert on 'tools' - I'm a newly-converted joint smoker who has recently discovered the wonders of the water-pipe and bong.

But I have noticed that my highs are 'better' when the weed gets filtered through water; better meaning I seem more alert and, at times, more philisophical (sp). When I smoke a joint - I just get goofed and f**k around until I pass out.

So IMHO I don't think a pipe will make much difference but if the weed gets filtered it might give you a 'cleaner' high.

[Torog]

Howdy Draconius,

Yer uncle has it right,for personal use,it is a good idea to be able to take a toke,then let it go out until he's ready for another. I've been toking since '72,so I reckon that you could call me an old stoner..lol..however,I know plenty of others that are older than me,and most are conservative in their use..one of em,even mixes tobacco in with his smoke..which I don't like,but it does make it go further.

Us old stoners,do know a few tricks that y'all younguns ain't learned yet

I think that you should git a similar pipe to his,unless you only toke with other folks. Another tip--git a bowl with a lid on it and put it on a bong,a bong will increase yer high even further than a pipe will. Just don't spill the bong water :thumbsup:

Have a good one ! :stoned:

[holysmokin]

I love my little metal pipe! it's about the size of my middle finger and comes apart in 5 pieces so I can get a ton of resin out of it. It has a top so I can pack a bowl and put it in my pocket then I smoke when I get a chance. Also with the top you can hit it once and put it back in your pocket in like 10 sec's. These are thing's ive found in my 12 year's of smokin...peace:smokin:

[DraconiusAldavo]

Thanks for the prompt replies. I'm going to go ahead and buy a pipe for now, and wait until my roommates move in to think about something stationary like a bong, and I'll most likely get them to throw in on getting something like that after I see what kinda traffic we'll have coming through. Can't be too careful around college kids(I'm the exception), because they'll rat on you at the first sign of cops. A pipe can be put in my pocket if unknown company comes around, and now that I know it conserves weed really well, I'm thinking that's what I'm going with, since I'll not be providing MJ for everyone that comes through ^^

[1234abcd]

Get a volcano vaporizer and ROOR bong. You will be in heaven.
Pipes suck...way too harsh..and doesn't get you as high as the above two. All it takes is 550 for the Volcano and 300 for the ROOR. Good luck mate!

[beachguy in thongs]

THC Transfer Rate

The MAPS-NORML study provides new information on the efficiency of different devices in delivering THC from marijuana to the user. Previous studies have shown that 60% - 80% of the THC burned in joints or waterpipes is lost in slipstream smoke, adhesion to the pipestem and bowl, pyrolysis, etc. [Mario Perez-Reyes, Marijuana Smoking: Factors that Influence the Bioavailability of Tetrahydrocannabinol, in C. Nora Chiang and Richard Hawks, ed., Research Findings on Smoking of Abused Substances, NIDA Research Monograph 99, 1990]. The percentage of total THC delivered to the user is called the THC transfer rate. The unfiltered joint scored surprisingly well in smoking efficiency, coming in second place with a transfer rate close to 20%. The portable waterpipe did slightly better, and the bong slightly worse. The other devices did notably worse. The vaporizers and electric waterpipe did especially poorly, with transfer rates less than one-third that of the top three devices. Thus, heavy smokers could literally be blowing most of their stash away with bad pipes.

http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html

[Krogith]

i was on there site and read this.... only thing is on the joint conclushion there device has a constant intake ( not takeing into conserderation most people breath and pause while smokeing) inbetween hits thus waisted weed =/ :smokin: From what i got there saying a small water pipe was best? makes sence bubblers own :smokin: there stuidy also useed the volcano:smokin:

[Reefer Rogue]

Buy a glass spoon. :stoned:

[partyguy420]

I'm no expert on 'tools' - I'm a newly-converted joint smoker who has recently discovered the wonders of the water-pipe and bong.

But I have noticed that my highs are 'better' when the weed gets filtered through water; better meaning I seem more alert and, at times, more philisophical (sp). When I smoke a joint - I just get goofed and f**k around until I pass out.

So IMHO I don't think a pipe will make much difference but if the weed gets filtered it might give you a 'cleaner' high.

atualy, to tell u the truth, ive seen it all over the cannabis boards, bongs atualy dont filter anything out, infact they put more shit into the smoke... i dont know how it happens, it could just be the fact that when they did the tests, they were smoking the resin out of the stem along with the bud.