national illegal immigrant day!!

[Gumby]

http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/index.html

one like this maybe... good guy to take advice from... good way to build relations.... good way to be a global freedom fighter... when will you see that you are supporting a dictator... he has convinced you it's a good idea to build a wall between our borders...

since when did we go from 'Tear down this wall' to build the 8th wonder of the world??

what part of america is that?

and now that you have found the money, why are schools and social help not a good idea... the last reason you said was money... why should we not help out our neighbors? we just whored them out for cheap labor... they were slaves, why not at least give them a chance...

I bet your ides for ending slavery would have been to ship them all back to africa huh?

[icebelowfreeze]

i love america but we make alot of mistakes, we dont fix our problems until its too late, 9/11, now the energy and the immagration problem. They should have secured the border in 2001, i have nothing against immagrants wanting to come to america and make a better life for thereself, but theres the right way and the wrong way of doing things, you dont let that many illegals in the country and say oh well were gonna make it a felony... If illegals can get in, what would stop the terroist's???? from what i hear canadas borders not so secure either.

[Psycho4Bud]

http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/index.html

one like this maybe... good guy to take advice from... good way to build relations.... good way to be a global freedom fighter... when will you see that you are supporting a dictator... he has convinced you it's a good idea to build a wall between our borders...

LOL...he hasn't convinced me of shit! Actually if we are to be honest about it, eg420ne brought it to my attention. The discussions in here brought the 20,000,000 number to my attention. After reading a little bit about the subject, knowing full well that ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS shouldn't be here; I've come to my own conclusions based on FACTUAL NUMBERS.

since when did we go from 'Tear down this wall' to build the 8th wonder of the world??

Comparing this to the Berlin Wall? Come on now..

what part of america is that?

That would be South America and North America.

and now that you have found the money, why are schools and social help not a good idea... the last reason you said was money... why should we not help out our neighbors? we just whored them out for cheap labor... they were slaves, why not at least give them a chance...

Hey, after we save a quarter trillion a year we can institute a few of your programs....how bout $50,000,000,000 a year after 2011, we'll STILL be saving money!

I bet your ides for ending slavery would have been to ship them all back to africa huh?

Low blow, uncalled for! Fact is, my great grandfather served for the North!


Funny though how you turn this shit around. FIRST it was the cash! I found PLENTY of cash. Now it's Berlin Wall and slavery shit?

YOU stated they should be out....I FOUND THE CASH for limo rides to the Mexican town of their choice.........you wondered how someone could be so ignorant as to think we could afford a wall...I FOUND THE CASH! :thumbsup:

So your answer is within the next 5 years to have a $250,000,000,000 unneeded expense on our national budget AND rebuild the entire Mexican infrustructure so they "might" want to go home? And you bitch about Bush's spending?

[Shelbay]

I like the news I just read on Arizona State law that is being enforced about illegals..every state should pattern a law similar and I bet it would help with stopping more from being sold into this country and expecting amnesty for their illegal actions. Who is here from Maracopa County? And I do believe the illegals theirselves should be held accountable but once again I detest those coyotes in this business...any Alabama leo's on here for once I say thank you for getting those 2 coyotes last week and doing what you are..not letting them go and holding strong on current developments.

[Gumby]

Low blow, uncalled for! Fact is, my great grandfather served for the North!


Funny though how you turn this shit around. FIRST it was the cash! I found PLENTY of cash. Now it's Berlin Wall and slavery shit?

YOU stated they should be out....I FOUND THE CASH for limo rides to the Mexican town of their choice.........you wondered how someone could be so ignorant as to think we could afford a wall...I FOUND THE CASH! :thumbsup:

So your answer is within the next 5 years to have a $250,000,000,000 unneeded expense on our national budget AND rebuild the entire Mexican infrustructure so they "might" want to go home? And you bitch about Bush's spending?

no, what you are not understanding is this... and I don't know how to spell it out any eaiser...

your plan... to buss/limo/truck them out and build a wall ... ( you at first had no funding sources)

my plan... build infrustructure so they will go back... ( using the money the money it would take to ship them out and build a wall)


I wasn't debating Bush's spending in this thread, I was debating your spending... the money you later found to use for shipping them out and building a wall... That money... instead of spending it on shipping them out and building a wall... why not spend the same money you will spend to help them...

your main complaint for my idea has been either... a)why should we spend money on them... or why should we help them out...

a) It's the same money you would rather build a wall with and ship them out with... it's spending money on them either way you look at it... I see my was as a little nicer and hopefully a better way to keep good relations with Mexico/get them all back to Mexico/ and look like a nice neighbor instead of a mean big brother.

b) because we are America... not Berlin... the same reason you laughed when I brought it up... we're not even close to that idea of a country... they why do we need to build a wall, instead of help them out??

[Psycho4Bud]

no, what you are not understanding is this... and I don't know how to spell it out any eaiser...

your plan... to buss/limo/truck them out and build a wall ... ( you at first had no funding sources)

my plan... build infrustructure so they will go back... ( using the money the money it would take to ship them out and build a wall)


I wasn't debating Bush's spending in this thread, I was debating your spending... the money you later found to use for shipping them out and building a wall... That money... instead of spending it on shipping them out and building a wall... why not spend the same money you will spend to help them...

Don't blow smoke up my ass.......THIS is what you so eliquintly stated!

and how much does your wall cost?? and how much does it cost to get them out?? that's why you are ignorant... because you don't think about that... if money is your issue for taking care of them, than why is it not for building the '8th wonder in the world' ... FUCKING IGNORANT!!!

O.K.....so how are YOU going to fund this and face esculating costs on our system due to more and more illegals?

[Gumby]

what don't you get???

i'm don't think it's that hard...

the money for YOUR wall... will instead go for my Idea... that's all I was saying...

instead of a wall we build a better country... same money...

SAME FUCKING MONEY... THE FACT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IS WHY I SAID YOU WERE IGNORANT 10 POSTS AGO... BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET THE MONEY IS THE SAME... YOUR MONEY IS THE SAME MONEY I WOULD USE...

SAME FUCKING MONEY... CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT... THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU WANT TO USE FOR A WALL I WANT TO USE FOR PEACE...

WHY CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??

am I really not that clear or are you really that ignorant?

ig·no·rant (ĭg'nər-ənt) pronunciation
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.


I did not have money planned to spend... my money was the money you were going to use to bus them out and build a wall.. please understand that... it will cost you money to do that... INSTEAD of spending that money on something that doesn't look the most neighborly ( your wall) spend THE SAME MONEY YOU PURPOSE BE SPENT ON THE BUSSES AND WALLS on something nice and respectable... do you not think people would look better upon america if INSTEAD of building a wall we use

[Gumby]

THE SAME MONEY FOR PEACE....

[Psycho4Bud]

what don't you get???

i'm don't think it's that hard...

the money for YOUR wall... will instead go for my Idea... that's all I was saying...

MY money came from kicking them out and taking it from the SAVINGS!

instead of a wall we build a better country... same money...

SAME FUCKING MONEY... THE FACT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IS WHY I SAID YOU WERE IGNORANT 10 POSTS AGO... BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET THE MONEY IS THE SAME... YOUR MONEY IS THE SAME MONEY I WOULD USE...

SAME FUCKING MONEY... CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT... THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU WANT TO USE FOR A WALL I WANT TO USE FOR PEACE...

NOT THE SAME MONEY (mine is from expenses saved) YOU DUMB SON OF A BITCH! FIND THE CASH BITCH!

WHY CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??

am I really not that clear or are you really that ignorant?

ig·no·rant (ĭg'nər-ənt) pronunciation
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.


I did not have money planned to spend... my money was the money you were going to use to bus them out and build a wall.. please understand that... it will cost you money to do that... INSTEAD of spending that money on something that doesn't look the most neighborly ( your wall) spend THE SAME MONEY YOU PURPOSE BE SPENT ON THE BUSSES AND WALLS on something nice and respectable... do you not think people would look better upon america if INSTEAD of building a wall we use

So when your proven wrong all you can do is flame? WTF??? I found the cash, now you find it and ALSO find the cash to support the increase this country is going to feel up till you convince the illegals that you have rebuilt their country. I also know the meaning of ignorant: GUMBY!

[Psycho4Bud]

THE SAME MONEY FOR PEACE....

The money I found is what we spend and project to spend to support the illegals. You want to keep the poor lil' immigrants and also fix their homeland...NOT the same money! Are you Democrat by chance?