CLONING CAUSE DROP IN POTENCY / YIELD?

[britewire]

No hard feelings at all! We're all here to learn from each others techniques and thoughts about growing, arn't we? If we all had the same thoughts about it nobody would ever discover something new, so this is a good thing.

I'm germinating 20 Jock Horror seeds at the moment and they're for a scrogg aswell.. I'll keep you updated in de "Jock Horror in SCROG" thread.

[latewood]

Let's do a test.

I'm preparing a Jock Horror in Scrogg right now. One of the seedlings I'll grow and make a motherplant out of it and after this grow I'll take some clones from the mother and use those clones in the exact same setup.

We'll see what does best.

I can't wait to see it...
Now that will be proof! I love it. where's GK and turtle with all this love flowing?

[justaseed]

i was doing alot of thinking on this subject at work today. i came up with this:
"seed plants" tend not to get as bushy as clones of the same plant in my experience. i am going to assume that is why i never got the yeilds with seed plants as i did with clone scrogs. even with alot of topping and lst in veg the seed plants would never have as many growth tips as the clones would, causing the screen to not be as evenly filled with seed scroggs although the "main branches" on the seed plants seemed to get fatter/fuller. this being the case, i would usually get about 10-12 oz of mostly medium sized buds with a few larger ones from seed scroggs. on the other hand, from clone scroggs i would usually get 12-14oz of mostly small buds with some medium size buds. i don't care at all about the size of the buds. i just care about quantity and quality so the 12-14 oz of small buds is my 1st choice.
now that i rambled on a little i am going to ad to our original question for debate:
will a seed plant of "exactly the same size" as a clone yeild more?

[Jdog7000]

I've been told several times by many differant ppl that Seeds yield more.

[Stickyplant]

It just turned into My dad can beat up Your dad.

That is the funniest thing I have read in days...lol

[latewood]

It hasn't yet, one thing that differs from the growing forum and the lounge (not the growers lounge which I love <3) is that we here have the ability to have an argument without the entanglement of resorting to a dick measuring contest.

This is why, I love the C.com growing forums.

I love you all.. and no, I'm not high.

Not yet.

*sparks spliff up*

remember, some of our members don't have "dicks" to measure...LOL

[latewood]

Is it true that the more times cloning is done, potency and yield are adversely effected? My friend wants to clone this plant, but it is not ready to be cloned just yet.

I would like to answer this one post...even though we went well beyond it, I have a short answer...I think.

When cloning from MUM...jr takes on age of mother...
you must keep MUM in at least a 5 gallon bucket and she will provide well yielding, potent clones for at least a year...then yield and potency could degrade.

Just cloning and growing should not effect yield and since the clone takes on the age of the MUM...the potency can be elevated somewhat...

If you want to keep clone longer than a year...several have...You should keep it in a soilless medium transplanted to a 10 gallon pot for the duration.

One final note. you must increase size of pot, for each month you are going to grow plant. I.E. a regular 4 month grow can be done in a 3-5 gallon pot...after transplanting from 1 gallon...

MUMs you plan on keeping over a prolonged period of time.
5-10 gallon pots are necessary...
5 gallon works for MUMs kept for a year, because the smaller pot/tub keeps MUM under control, from getting TOO bushy. Imho. lw

Not so short...Oh well, lw