i hate to be the old phart, but if they put out the same 2nd-rate bullshit they were puttin out at the end-then they should stay away. it was a damn shame to see the botchery at coventry. i'm a phan from way back, but honestly the quality of the music had suffered significantly. at one point in time they had 'it'-they were the best live act goin. i know i sound like the old phart thats past his time(and maybe you're right) and just bitter about it, but just my .02. i love this band, but i left vermont 2 summers ago feelin a lil bitter. didn't mean to step on anyone's toes.