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    Bush's BIO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    did you know Kerry and Bush were cousins?? and both were in the Skulls... that's why he got the nomination... not cause everyone thought he was a douche.... no one thought he would win...

    Kerry's as bad as Bush and I think that's what a lot of people realized... it is sad that money is the only thing you need to get a chance to be president...
    Kerry is about as close a "cousin" to Bush as millions of Americans, including myself, are to Bush. I share several common ancestors with Bush, including Mayflower passengers John Howland, (his wife) Elizabeth Tilley, and her parents. I am Bush's 9th cousin, 3X removed through the Howland line - which is equivalent to a 12th cousin. Kerry, I believe, is Bush's 10th or 11th cousin, through someone else. I also have other colonial ancestors in common with Bush (Hinckley), as do millions of others in this country. It is believed that nobody that has roots far back in England can be anything less than a 25th cousin to any other person that has roots going back many generations. The gene pool in Colonial New England was much smaller, hence more relationships.

    Kerry's genealogy, which did not show Mayflower ancestry, was done by professionals a couple of years ago when he was a contender for the presidency, and I'm sure that his distant relation to Bush was as much as surprise to him as mine was to me, when I traced it. It's really not relevant or of any use at all - just interesting to know about.

    I also share common Mayflower ancestry with Ulysses Grant, FDR, Alan B. Shepard, Jr. First American in space, fifth man to walk on the moon (first to golf on the moon.), Alec Baldwin (and brother Stephen), Humphrey Bogart, Richard Gere, Joseph Smith. Mormon founder and leader, .Ralph Waldo Emerson. Richard Nixon, President Gerald Ford, and Winston Churchill are descendants of brothers of Mayflower passenger John Howland - which also qualifies me as their relative since the Howland brothers had the same father.

    It has been calculated that if all of Bush's "cousins" voted for him, he'd win by a total landslide - that's how extensive the genealogical links to many Americans in his background are.

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    Breukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on . Bush's BIO! i feel bad he was such a fuck up doesnt mean he gets to fuck up America though! seriously, read it... you owe it to yourself to know this http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/6482734/all_hat_no_cattle Rating: 5

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    Bush's BIO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    It is believed that nobody that has roots far back in England can be anything less than a 25th cousin to any other person that has roots going back many generations. The gene pool in Colonial New England was much smaller, hence more relationships.
    Correction - I meant that English people with ancestral roots that go back many generations are all related as no more than 25th cousins, and often even closer.

    It is much more difficult for most of today's English people to trace their ancestry back to the 16th, 17th and 18th century than for Americans that have American roots during our Colonial period and Revolutionary War.

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    Bush's BIO!

    how did you figure out your history? I've looked for mine, but it's a rare name, and I believe the history in america is only 3-4 generations. My father went to Italy to look around, and he found some of his relatives. He passed away quickly after that however and it's always been something interesting to me. I find it weird who's all related and the pathology of it all.

    Kerry always reminded me of Bush and I never understood why the Democrates chose him to run... I didn't know they were related untill recently, but they are both interested in the same things... money and power... Maybe one day soon we'll have someone incharge who wants a better world than to better themselve...

    do you know why it is that all there ancestors are from the other states than Texas and Florida... and why Jeb and George decided to take over those to states first??

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    Bush's BIO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    how did you figure out your history? I've looked for mine, but it's a rare name, and I believe the history in america is only 3-4 generations. My father went to Italy to look around, and he found some of his relatives. He passed away quickly after that however and it's always been something interesting to me. I find it weird who's all related and the pathology of it all. Kerry always reminded me of Bush and I never understood why the Democrates chose him to run... I didn't know they were related untill recently, but they are both interested in the same things... money and power... Maybe one day soon we'll have someone incharge who wants a better world than to better themselve...do you know why it is that all there ancestors are from the other states than Texas and Florida... and why Jeb and George decided to take over those to states first??

    I doubt very much that Kerry and Bush have a similar "pathology" due to a common ancestor from over 300 years ago! :dance:

    We all have thousands of ancestors from that far back, because each generation's number of great grandparents doubles. In other words, you have 2 g. parents, 4 gr. grandparents, 8 gg grandparents, 16 ggg g.parents, 32 4X gr. grandparents, 64 5 X great grandparents (for me 4-6 was about the time of the Revolution), 128 6X gr grandparents, 256 ggggggg grandparents, so you can see that this number soon goes into the thousands.

    I started tracing my ancestry with a book about a Revolutionary War soldier's ancestors - one of which is me. The book was published in 1915, and my grandmother, then a girl, was included - along with her parents, grandparents, etc. Somebody, in the past, probably a distant cousin, submitted parts of this genealogy to the Mormon's LDS genealogy database FamilyHistoryWebsite for posterity. Once I had some names, I went online and it took me back to the Mayflower - and many other surprising discoveries about my ancestry. I took it further and did â??realâ?ť research by going to county courthouses, graveyards, various genealogical societies and repositories of information, ordering census information, and other methods. I can, and have, â??provenâ?ť my ancestry not only to myself, but to the satisfaction of a number of organizations that I joined that required iron-clad proof of whatever qualifying ancestry youâ??re using to become a member. As my research was helped by earlier people that did similar searches, I hope that some of what I have done will help others along in their quests. We owe those pioneers and trailblazers a lot - and genealogy is a great way to honor them by keeping their memory, and hard work and sacrifices, alive through an outlet like this.

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    Bush's BIO!

    so come on....what were the surprising discoveries??...u cant post that without giving some more details...

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    Bush's BIO!

    Quote Originally Posted by andyandy
    so come on....what were the surprising discoveries??...u cant post that without giving some more details...
    There's too much to write here - and it's also pretty self-indulgent, but here's a few items.

    I found several Mayflower ancestors, and the one that I have in common with Bush, John Howland, had the misfortune of falling off the ship, and almost drowning! He survived, married a Mayflower passenger named Elizabeth Tilley, and had a bunch of children.

    It's mostly the colonial New England ancestry that was so interesting, and some of my ancestors were involved in settling in Martha's Vineyard, and one, named Thomas Mayhew, was the first governor of Nantucket.

    I didn't inherit any Martha's Vineyard or Nantucket property, lol.

    I knew nothing when I started other than ancestors born in the 19th and 20th century, and one Revolutionary War soldier, born 1753, who had come with the German auxiliarry forces (known as "Hessians") that was captured and subsequently joined the American side. He was the one that I started researching, and that led me to many hundreds of other ancestors before, and after, him - including a handful of other Revolutionary War Soldiers.
    It's interesting when you can find their war records, and sometimes even height, religion, units that they belonged to, etc. It makes history much more interesting because it's "personalized".

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    Bush's BIO!

    thanks for the info... i think i'm gonna start looking into my history...

    lol... i used the term pathology for bush and kerry more for the literal meaning rather than a serious one... more in the term of " The scientific study of the nature of disease and its causes, processes, development, and consequences. " I don't consider poeple like them much more than a disease that have spread though out the human population... too bad they are also in power... I'm a huge backer for sterilzing stupid people...

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