quantum mechanics and god

[JaiPeur]

whee!

[willystylle]

Are you riding the bike or is the bike riding you?

I have no idea what u guys are saying but try this one:

As an object aproaches the speed of light, light will bend around that object (Specialized theory of relativity, A. Einstein). So as you travel faster than the speed of light, you are not seeing light but the path that light travels, iow the 'history' of the light (general theory of relativity, A. Einstein).

So theoretically(sp) if you travel faster than the speed of light you will actually begin to see everything around you as it was when light reflected off that object at that particular point in time.

Confused? Try this:

If you travel faster than the speed of light, you will be seeing events that already happened - you will be seeing the past. So time travel is 'possible' to a certain degree (theoretically, of course). Descartes' theory of 'I think, therefore I am' states that if you can see, touch, smell or even think of an idea, that idea must exist at some point in time and space - this leaves the theory open to the suggestion that every possible event will happen at some point in space and time. This opens the theory further to suggest that there are multiple realites.

So before your brain explodes I'll finish my argument.

If you travel faster than the speed of light and you are seeing events of the past, those events now exist in present time as well as past, which means that you should be able to manipulate the events of the past which are actually in the present. So if you change something in the 'present past', will it affect the 'past past' as it is the same thing?

(Try work it out when you're stoned)

[chloe]

what you're missing is that there is no "past". Time is an illusion. And secondly, to get a somewhat accurate idea of how time travel would actually work watch the most recent Harry Potter movie (I know, I know....) but all jokes aside, the way it's portrayed in the movie is actually theoretically correct.

[Moose101]

Didn't some guy prove mathematically that you can't travel faster than light? I know on one of these threads that one guy said gravity can go faster than light. I honestly don't know any of this stuff. But I would guess that if gravity can go faster than light then anti-gravity would be the only way. Isn't the US government working on that? I dunno if I'm saying the obvious but if you can change gravity, then there is no reason you can't negatively accelerate to the velocity of infinite. If you were to reach such a velocity you'd be colliding with light faster then it can land on any object. What happens when you are moving away from a sun? You'd be colliding with light from a whole new angle. You'd be subject to mass amounts of heat. Now that would be cool, or rather hot. If you were to absorb that heat and turn it to energy on contact, what would happen next? Would you explode from having the energy of every sun? Will you be able to go thru matter. Would suck to run into a sun but I guess if you are going at the velocity of infinity then it wouldn't matter so much. You can destroy the entire universe by crashing into it instantaniously. Perhaps by doing so you can become a sun.

[willystylle]

Didn't some guy prove mathematically that you can't travel faster than light?

Yes, you're absolutely right. Einstein's theory was 'what if' but it is impossible to travel at the speed of light making the theory of time travel impossible. Impossible but mathematically plausible.

If we COULD travel faster than the speed of light, we SHOULD see into the past.

And yes chloe time is an illusion. or rather it's a measurement of an illusion, which opens a whole lot of new doors.

[mrdevious]

Yes, you're absolutely right. Einstein's theory was 'what if' but it is impossible to travel at the speed of light making the theory of time travel impossible. Impossible but mathematically plausible.

If we COULD travel faster than the speed of light, we SHOULD see into the past.

And yes chloe time is an illusion. or rather it's a measurement of an illusion, which opens a whole lot of new doors.

That's something I never understood. Why is it that this one prominent energy, light, is the mark for what speed nobody can achieve? Also I was under the impression that travelling at a faster velocity at a far away point in space would cause a minor time differential. For instance, I remember hearing about this Russian astronnaught who was in space for 8 months, and they said that according to relativity he would have come back about 5 minutes younger than the point he would have aged to had he spent that time on earth.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i think gravity is nothing more than magnetics. the pushing and pulling of the poles. electrical charges. perhaps there are both + and - charged light rays, or PERHAPS, light is a universal magnet that is attracted to ANY charge? similar to how metal goes to either pole of a magnet.

magnetism makes sense to me, and if there's any reason it shouldnt work, please do share


as for time, it's an illusion, think of it as a river, constantly flowing and changing... the further up stream you go, the farther in the past, but it's not the same past as it was when the ocean water was still passing through at this point, all the mollecules are different. the past is gone, it's done, it's over with, at best you might be able to view it, but never interfere, because it doesnt exist anymore. same with the future, because it doesnt exist yet, and is prone to change, depending on what you may or may not know about it.

[Moose101]

That's something I never understood. Why is it that this one prominent energy, light, is the mark for what speed nobody can achieve?

That's what I've been wondering as well. Speaking of which. How do we really know this is lights constant? What if it's velocity is determined by the suns mass? Have we checked the velocity from other suns?
Maybe if I knew Einstein's theory, my thoughts can be put to rest. I guess I could look it up. But I know what's going to happen if I do. I'm going to run into countless webpages that try to make it a thousand times more complicated then it really is. They do this so they can make themselves feel more intellegent. Personally, I think real intellegence is trying to make it less complicated. Are there any real intellegent people here?

[willystylle]

That's something I never understood. Why is it that this one prominent energy, light, is the mark for what speed nobody can achieve? Also I was under the impression that travelling at a faster velocity at a far away point in space would cause a minor time differential. For instance, I remember hearing about this Russian astronnaught who was in space for 8 months, and they said that according to relativity he would have come back about 5 minutes younger than the point he would have aged to had he spent that time on earth.

I read that too, mrdevious, but I think it has something to do with re-entry and timelines, etc. Not sure.

Its a good question you brought up though, about how light is a measurement no one can achieve. The same goes for time itself. Time is a measurement of an abstract - Time cannot be PHYSICALLY measured. And we measure time using the birth of Christ as a starting point (or rather a middle one) yet we're unsure when the fucker was actually born!

Its strange to say 60 seconds has past since I started typing this post - but if a second doesn't actually exist (i.e. can't be measured, therefore an abstract) then am I really typing this thread? What if eternity happens in an instant? What if an instant is acutally eternity? Are we just a random thought in a sea of trillions of thoughts?

[poorprincess]

Hmm, what if particles at the quantum level are predicatable? We just gotta figure it out. I'm thinking maybe creating a huge program that would take every aspect into concideration and annalyze the data. Doing thousands of trials and taking all possible velocities and acclerations from 0 to the speed of light.

on a molecular level everything is moving and there for cannot be pinpointed in exact location.