OBL is the real crusader

[Bong30]

It pretty much sums it up.....

Jonah Goldberg:
Radical Islam -- globalization for losers
April 27, 2006


OSAMA BIN LADEN'S ratings are falling. His latest pronouncement was a yawn. His scripts could use a rewrite. "Infidels" this, "crusaders" that. Blah, blah, blah. We've heard it all before.

However, one new wrinkle in Bin Laden's diatribe deserves more attention, as it illuminates the nature of the West's struggle against radical Islam. "I call on the mujahedin and their supporters in Sudan â?¦ and the Arabian Peninsula to prepare all that is necessary to wage a long-term war against the crusaders in western Sudan," Bin Laden declared. The crusaders in question are United Nations peacekeepers, who aren't even in Sudan yet but who are going to stop genocide there â?? we hope. Bin Laden suspects a Western plot to install U.S. bases and destroy Islam in Sudan, and he wants to fend off the U.N., which he calls an "infidel body" and "a tool of crusader-Zionist resolutions." If he thinks the U.N. is a tool of the Zionists, clearly, he needs to get out of his cave more.
Nonetheless, Bin Laden's call to open a new front in Sudan highlights some underappreciated aspects of the jihadist mission. First, most people being slaughtered by Sudan's Arab-controlled government are Muslims. Bin Laden wants his holy warriors to fight for a Sudanese right to exterminate indigenous Muslim tribes. In this, Bin Ladenism represents a perverse form of globalization.

In the West, we tend to talk about globalization as if it's a euphemism for Americanization. But there are many competing forms of globalization. Even anti-globalization activists favor the "right" kind of globalization, one driven by the U.N. and "progressives" instead of corporations and markets.

Radical Islam is globalization for losers. It appeals to those left out of modernization, industrialization and prosperity, particularly to young men desperate for order, meaning and pride amid the chaos of globalization. Radical Islam provides it, but at a terrible price.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported the sad tale of the demise of Mak Yong, an ancient form of dance and theater in Southeast Asia drawn from pre-Islamic faiths, including Hinduism. But such traditional cultural influences are now considered "un-Islamic."
"Many Southeast Asian Muslims now navigate by guideposts from the Arab world," the Journal reported. "Young men in Indonesia are starting to wear turbans and grow beards. In Malaysia, Malays have adopted the Arab word for prayer, salat, to replace the Malay word, sembahyang, which literally means 'offer homage to the primal ancestor.' "

This is merely an extension of trends that have already transformed the Middle East. As Fareed Zakaria writes in "The Future of Freedom," until the 1970s most Middle Easterners "practiced a kind of village Islam that adapted itself to local cultures and to normal human desires. Pluralistic and tolerant, these villages often worshipped saints, went to shrines, sang religious hymns and cherished art â?? all technically disallowed in Islam." This indigenous form of Islam was bulldozed by urbanization and radicalization. The Iranian Revolution was a harbinger of the transformation toward a more "universal" Islam that was also more doctrinaire; "Islam of the high church as opposed to Islam of the street fair," Zakaria writes.

Reihan Salam, a coauthor of one of the smartest blogs going right now â?? theamericanscene.com â?? is an American of Bengali descent who argues that the death of Mak Yong represents "globalization at its worst." He rightly notes that if the choice is between the globalization of "crass Arabization" and the globalization of "crass Westernization," then it's no choice at all.

Although Western-style globalization may force certain technological and economic changes on indigenous cultures, it also provides those cultures with the tools and flexibility to keep much of their culture. The hard Islam coming out of Riyadh and Tehran offers no such freedom. Recall that Afghanistan was a Muslim country for centuries, but it wasn't until the jihadi thugs of the Taliban took over that the historic Bamiyan Buddhas were deemed an offense to Islam and destroyed.

Bin Laden's call to kill U.N. peacekeepers is consistent with the Islamist desire to impose a harsh, "one true Islam" across the Muslim world (and, someday, they hope, the non-Muslim world too.)
Too many intellectuals and commentators take the ignorant and condescending view that because jihadism is exotic, it is also "authentic." On the right, this often translates into the view that all strains of Islam are alike â?? and equally dangerous. And on the left, we get the usual knee-jerk defense of any seemingly "indigenous" foreign movement that casts America as a global villain. The reality is that in the war on terrorism, America is on the side of freedom and diversity. Bin Laden & Co. are the real crusaders.


Can you guys even grow a beard? Ladies, do you know where to get a berka?

well if they have it there way, you better figure this stuff out.

The other side......:thumbsup:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...mment-opinions

Bong30 Reviewed by Bong30 on 04-28-2006. OBL is the real crusader It pretty much sums it up..... Jonah Goldberg: Radical Islam -- globalization for losers April 27, 2006 OSAMA BIN LADEN'S ratings are falling. His latest pronouncement was a yawn. His scripts could use a rewrite. "Infidels" this, "crusaders" that. Blah, blah, blah. We've heard it all before. However, one new wrinkle in Bin Laden's diatribe deserves more attention, as it illuminates the nature of the West's struggle against radical Islam. "I call on the mujahedin and their Rating: 5

[Bong30]

didnt say anything here guys.................i thougt about politics, and then did some reserch, and found this article that has some very interestin view point.

It just doesnt fit you left wing commie objectives..........

so you guys dont say shit................. tell me how OBL isnt the real crusader.

[eg420ne]

Tell me how USAma made NORAD stand down...Tell me why USAma told Willie Brown and pentagon officials not to fly on 911...Tell me how USAma knew about the War Games going on 911...Tell me why bush administration let the BinLaden family fly out when no1 else could..

[pisshead]

i don't see osama threatening to jail that chinese woman under the patriot for heckling the chinese dictator that we rolled the red carpet out for, literally i guess, for our socialist neo-con anti-US pro-world dictatorship.

i don't see osama dismantling the constitution. i see anti-american sovereignty and anti-constitution cfr members and puppet presidents and fancy world bankers from their fancy world banks in nice suits doing that.

and building 7? how did osama know about that? he's a good go-to man i guess to blame things on...even when it explains so little of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory.

[eg420ne]

Why did the bush regime lie about not knowing there was imminent attack about to occur..why did all the warnings go unheard of....Why did Bush take the FBI off the trail of AlCIAduh & USAma

[Bong30]

piss
lets take the goverment back, quit bitching start voting, killing, i dont care.

we intruduced him as the republic of china...thats tiwan what ever

we are shmozzing him so when we bomb the fuck out of iran he wont do anything stupid.

chineese lady...please what was she charged with disorderly conduct ohh no...

didnt she have fake creditials to get in?

[eg420ne]

USAma wasnt the one who had the patRIOT act ready right after 911, and USAma is not the one who forces old women in wheelchair to be felt up by TSA, or grabbing womens breast, or making lil white kids to take off there shoes to see if they have a bomb

[Bong30]

Tell me how USAma made NORAD stand down...Tell me why USAma told Willie Brown and pentagon officials not to fly on 911...Tell me how USAma knew about the War Games going on 911...Tell me why bush administration let the BinLaden family fly out when no1 else could..

i dont know eg,but i dont through my country under the bus, for this stuff just through bush, not america

[Bong30]

The reality is that in the war on terrorism, America is on the side of freedom and diversity. Bin Laden & Co. are the real crusaders.

it says america not Bush i see the differance can you?

[pisshead]

6 months to a year in jail. i'm glad you think it's funny.

that's the problem i guess. you'd gladly see some lady go jail for a year for talking to the chinese dictator, as long as she didn't have the proper credentials?

i think you should have the freedom to heckle a dictator, while it's still allowed. i wonder if it's still allowed if you go to prison for a year.

and from the patriot act isn't for terrorists to accepting it being used for ordinary citizens...you're a good doublethinker.

that woman gave up a 400,000 a year job as a top transplant surgeon to be an activist.

osama didn't do shit.