Do you put the roach in before or after rolling.

[HiddenBeauty]

Rolling backwards looks really easy and it is simply done so you are not smoking loads of paper.It was my mates b.day yesterday and he wanted to use his card for roach but I didn't let him because it was a status quo one that played one of their songs when opened but I bet he did when he got home.

I have the joint rolling handbook and some of the ones in there look impossible to do.Anyone make tulips,crossroads or a windmill?

[growitandsmokeit]

They are far far to complicated. The only times I have ever seen one was on a tv program a few years ago when some girl made one.

[spk]

uh.... i put it in after i roll the joint. seems like the easiest way to do it. what does rolling backwards improve?

[Pure]

I just cut up some card at home, folder dividers make good roach also. I have to roll with the roach in the rizla at the time of lickin 'n' stickin or it don't work for me...
mmm i fancy a toke..

[cannabis campbell]

Afterwards, this way i make the joint coned and whatever shape i want the i can adjust the size of the roach.

[HiddenBeauty]

They are far far to complicated. The only times I have ever seen one was on a tv program a few years ago when some girl made one.

I have seen the tulip made several times by my friend I cant do them myself,practice makes perfect they say so I might buy a load of rizlas and have a special smoke weekend :stoned:

[Smoking Ganja]

OK! Rolling with the filter already in place is not the best way to smoke joints. I have a couple of mates that roll with the filter already in and it's NEVER ever ever ever as smooth as rolling a joint and then putting the filter in afterwards.
The reason being: When you place the filter in at the end it compacts the weed at the bottom towards the centre creating a completely compact joint that is smooth up until the end.
When you roll with the filter already in place the bottom of the joint is absolutely shit and terribly harsh there fore wasting a larger amount of bud (assuming you don't collect the roaches).

thats just cuz your friends suck at rolling... if you know how to roll well, having the roach in to begin with shouldn't make a difference

[Loudogg]

I roll FAT tulips!

[Hollandica]

I put my roach in on the left side (west side, lol) and can roll both "backwards" (I think we call it "inside-oud" here) and normal. Whatever you want, actually.

Tulips are really surprisingly easy to make. Just make a baggy with some rolling paper, fill it up with weed (mix), roll a tube from a cardboard thingy and put it in the bag, tie it, smoke it. A tulip never let me down.

[wes dawg]

I put the roach in first, right or left it doesnt matter. I can't understand how some of you guys can put it in last!