Quote Originally Posted by Trichocereus Panza
lol.

But good impulses do not undermine our own survival most of the time. And even when it seems that they do, even if you use the example of sacrificing your life for others, it's really because your life is not in any way shape or form separate from the life of others or the "community" as you put it. So really by "compromising" ourselves we are doing no such thing: we are simply preserving the larger Life that we already were before we were born, and will continue to be after we die. It's not even so much that we are "connected" as that we are already completely the same thing, we just use the word connected because we seem separate for the time being.

Nothing makes us different from animals. They are the same larger community of our fellow beings towards which we direct our compassion, and their life is ours as well. When your life is already the life of the whole universe, you don't need any explanation as to why you would help preserve that larger life, without "compromising" anything at all.

haha, never been in an ongoing debate like this before, it's been a while since I've seen one on here.
In this case we are all but dust and no person life amounted to anything because if they didn't do it someone else would..... I chose to not think all but is for nothing and everyone is but a spec.... I also do not belive we were created to end up a angle why would he make angles and then make the earth for it to produce more angles? we are a new creation from the angles we are to live forever in our own exsistance. I belive this is all but a test for god to Rightfully Undisputed be able to permanutly kill satan. If he did it back when he 1st rebled instead of let him show hes idea that we don't need god to exsist and we should run our self is obiously being Proven Wrong right now once Satan is proven 100% wrong he can than be killed forever and no one would think he might or could of had a point. THIS UNIVERSAL COURT CASE is a better idea to me than our lives all but being the same as a animal and we are here due to some random crazy life that has no meaning what so ever and there nothing controling the huge expance that it's all Random and nothing has pourpos and when we as humans Distroy the EARTH we could possable wipeing out all forms of exsistance in the universe? But no one can Claim To KNOW one side or the Other were all Guessing.....