I will add a few more things how many kick ass movies where made about bears beside bernstein bears and those other movies King Kong Congo showed me those animals aint no pussies even though both were fake point is if you have say a 400lb bear vs a 400lb gorilla i think the gorilla would win i wasnt really takin into consideration all the strength i am thinking bout the fact of bulletproof chest the gorillas have and bears have fur so what if its not bulletproof it might as well be cause i think gorilla would throw good hits and the bear would may not be able to react fast enough