Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ people!

"I didn't actually say that, what I said was..."

"Oh, well I didn't imply that you said X, look who's jumping to conclusions"

When idiots debate nobody wins. God forbid more smokers out there think of how their actions might affect the freedoms of the rest of the culture. God forbid some of you remember that you're representing the smokers out there. God forbid that smokers are honest caring people who might care about their parents and the people around them rather than playing their part like stone cold thugs.

You guys both make some good points. But you both just have to be right, don't you? Well you can't. That's my job. And if I have to, I'll draw the fire...

PS> Crazypothead, congrats on striving for the big picture, at least in the beginning. And slipknot... you are really starting to grasp at straws here...