Green Dragon

[primster]

how can i make green dragon without everclean the LCBO's in my city what could i use to subsitute it ?

primster Reviewed by primster on 04-21-2006. Green Dragon how can i make green dragon without everclean the LCBO's in my city what could i use to subsitute it ? Rating: 5

[Master Wu]

Hi Primster,

I posted this detailed recipe and explanation here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=58414

It's fast to make, and works like a charm. Expect onset between 1.5 hrs (empty stomach) and 3.5 hrs (ugh--if you had a full stomach).

In direct answer to your question, use Bacardi 151.

Best,
Master Wu

[GreenDragonManiac]

It looks like the mods prefer that I post my web page in this section:
http://www.GreenDragonSoda.com

[GreenDragonManiac]

I should probably add the pre-baking part to the web site...

Mind if I copy your 4-part recipe and give you credit?

[GreenDragonManiac]

There is conflicting information on the Internet on this issue. Does anybody know how much THC A there is compared to THC?

[Master Wu]

Please feel free to use whatever part of my recipe you like.

I know there is conflicting information on the pre-baking. My experience is that this does significantly improve the potency of the extract (but I'm open to other scientific data on this issue).

Master Wu

[Master Wu]

Update to my prior hasty post...

GreenDragonManiac

I agree there is conflicting information on the pre-baking. My experience is that this does seem to significantly improve the potency of the extract (but I'm open to other scientific data on this issue).

By the way GDM you have put together an excellent recipe. I didn't know about the citrus extract having such a high alcohol content. I wish I had found your site before spending so much time developing my recipe. However it is nice to find someone who has an independent confirmation of my Green Dragon recipe/procedure. Good science is peer-reviewed.

Feel free to use any part of my recipe that is helpful. Perhaps you might even want to copy the whole post and/or combine the two. Hopefully between the two of us we'll dispel all the misinformation out there about making this magical elixer. If you make it clear that both recipes were arrived at independently then it should give others some level of confidence to other alchemists.

One small disagreement. I don't think putting the GD in a water bath is particularly dangerous as long as caution is used. It is the most efficient way to prepare the extract. If the vent fan is running and the extract is placed in a water bath to control temperature as well as provide water steam, I think it is relatively safe (certainly much more safer than the microwave method as you rightly point out). I like to use a much wider pan for the water bath (9" wide by 3" high). It provides much more water vapor to dilute any of the ethanol vapors that are evaporated.

Master Wu

[GreenDragonManiac]

Thanks Master Wu for the response. I still don't know the comparison of THC to THC A in actual numbers. It might depend on the strain and how it's grown. I'll spend some time researching that this week to see, since I was gone over the weekend.

I can't test the pre-bake idea because I don't actually use marijuana these days, but maybe a friend could do a comparison. You said it makes a difference, but did you make two batches exactly the same way? And are you sure it wasn't just a different stash? Sometimes even the same bag of weed will have different potencies in different buds, or depending on how close you are to the tip.

Yeah, originally when I put up the web page, I didn't think the alcohol was a huge safety issue using the water, but somebody told me that 3 to 4 people die every year making green dragon. Alcohol does boil at a lower temperature than water, so an accidental boil-over will throw a lot of alcohol vapor into the kitchen, so the ventilation is important. I took down the web page down last summer and put it back up recently with some changes. The microwave is just plain stupid (I can't believe I tried that), but there are a few people here and there on the Internet talking about using a microwave to do it.

[darkside]

use an electric crock pot and plug it in outdoors. safety issue solved.

[Master Wu]

I agree that it is easy for people to do something incredibly dangerous--like doing the extraction in the microwave. Personally I wouldn't even give microwave instructions lest they be confused with the "don't do pot it is bad for you" type of disclaimer. You should simply say "DON'T USE THE MICROWAVE!!!"

The reason people get hurt (and die) is they try to boil the alcohol directly over an open flame--very stupid and very dangerous. The water bath is quite safe (3000F for open flame vs. 212F for water bath). Again make it clear that under no conditions should anyone put a pot of alcohol over an open flame or directly on an electric burner. It MUST be in a water bath. If they put it in a water bath then it should be quite safe.

Master Wu