yeh i agree with that now turtle as this scrog of mine is from seed and im now finding that it has to be done from clones to achive its full potencial.Mine were tied down all through veg and i can now see the benefit of doing that.My mistake was doing it with multible strains as the aurora indica doesnt like it at all.Actually i think i might have lessened the yeild instead of increasing it on the AI but have definetly increased the white russian and nebula yeilds but lol (always a but)lol now im having a problem with the light coverage of the 1000 watt hps so im thinking of adding 4x 85 watt warm red fluresant tubes any one think this would help i have these sitting so if they could help some one let me in on it im not up in lumens from the fluresant tubes.I dont want to waste the power if they wont help they are t 8 or 12 i cant remember.The postman