thanks again i actually just had a flub cause i needed to replant them to give them more room and when i did the top on the biggest one bent over, not off or a crack but just bent over so i supported it with a straw and a stong attached to help support it more, i watered it nicely and added some extra nitrogen a little not too much and i put then back under the lights, and then the one lamp fell over and it cracked so now the timer has gone off the lights are out and tomorrow i'll have to get my thrid light back in the picture, this was more of a hassel then expected and more stress added to my life....thanks for the thoughts though guys the little bit of growth is just a question i can maybe answer in the future to someone else who asks...

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