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    #31
    Senior Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmicrackedcorn
    You don't know what happiness is, or sadness, or regret, or guilt, remorse etc etc. A big light at the end of the tunnel, or the room I'm sitting in now, the place I go when I let go every night, the shit I feel when I'm dreaming, the intoxication I feel from the drugs I take, which, I believe is pretty fuckin close to the ''real'' emotions (whatever that really means), or what "thing" contributes to the people I see or meet.

    No answer any1 has ever given me, from any religion, or scientific documents about neurology, or physics or any answer I've desperately tried to formulate (and fuck me have I tried) has EVER even a little bit, gotten close to what must truly be going on (because you can find an unanswerable question, in all of them), simply because I don't really know what question it is I'm asking, all I do know for certain is that somethings goin on right now that defies explaination (try and imagine the moment where the present becomes the past, where the colourful image of the 'Here and Now' changes to the dull dream-like, flickering frames of memories).

    To explain something you need a definitive ground, to relate ure explaination to, to make it relevant, in this case its the shit we're sitting in, and experiencing now, that is the basis of all our conclusions on pretty much everything, from good to bad, morale concepts, what death is, what life is. As I've posted before though, every1 believes there is a definite line between that which is consensus reality, and that which is ure own reality, when really, its a superposition. Your only link to the outside world, is through the apparatus, you have to sense it, but the apparatus you have to sense it, you didn't make, and it isn't personally ures (as in you didn't magic it up, all the shit that went in to making ure arms and legs was already there in that which seems totally abstract from you, and it will be, long after 'You' are dead), so where do you draw the line? Where the fuck does the "outside" world begin?, and the personna you have built up in ure head of ureself and ure general beliefs begin?

    You're looking for a definitive universal answer, to something which is malleable, through a medium open to great interpretation (the music of WOOOOOORDS!!!), for every1 in the world (6.5 billion isn't it?), who, by the way, have all slightly differing opinions, which they necessarily don't believe to the letter of the law. But ure tumbling towards something, and you can keep thinkin that days go by and the next one will come along, and that sum imaginery signal is gonna be thrown up when its ure time to go, like its going to be a significant event, but its not, its gonna be like every other day, to everybody else in the world except you, it's fucking scary, and infinitely humbling, how complex reality really must be.

    So I aint got a clue, and I don't take people who have had near death experiences any more seriously than I do drawing my own conclusions, because its there explaination, and interpretation of whats happened, NOT whats "really" happening, then people say to just ''be'' and stuff like that, without realizing what they are being now, or what the person wallowing in his/her own confusion is being, that ''being'' isn't necessarily the way to go, and won't always guarentee peace, well being, and oneness, because its not about that, turn ure documentary channels on and see the graceful gazelle, run his absolute bollox off, before getting ripped to shreds by a group of predators, or turn through the pages of history to see what humans really get up to without the consequence of a big brother state, and its fucked up (in comparison to what people actually believe humanity and there wants to be, a beautiful expression of artistic emotion).

    Its not graceful, its not beautiful, its not peaceful, its not depressing either, it is what it is, which is all those things, depending on which window you look from, and there's no other way to put it, our trying to deal with it, and trying to be it or whatever you wanna call it, is a complete and utter waste of time, a meaningless detail, bcuz thats the point of being, you don't try, you become ure thoughts, whatever they may be. What a fuckin paradox! Mother Teresa fundamentally is no different from Adolf Hitler to the Godhead, cuz as we can see, both of them can live healthy lives, where they wake up morning after morning, yet have a totally different outlook, which they both equally justify to be correct.

    The human mind is not as significant as every1 is trying to believe it to be, in that all problems could be resolved through understanding, because there are an infinite number of understandings you could ply ure brain with to justify the action, but the action is what is most important, and you can do any action you fucking want within physical boundaries, and the only reason its right/wrong depends on whether the consequences you suffer for ure actions, outweigh the pleasure gained to that specific individual.

    So in conclusion blatitteeblaagooobaaaaaamonsack, thank you!!
    Whatever "it" is, I felt extremely close to it during a recent Mushroom trip last weekend. But anyways, good post man...

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    #32
    Senior Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    I watched a programme about it and one guy said he was drifting towards this light when he saw his granma and she told him it wasn't his time yet and to go back so obviously he did.

    About 3 days before my dad died of cancer my mum said he seemed to be alot happier like he knew something and before my friends mum died(suddenly not an illness) she sent letters to people and rang people she had not spoke to in a while.

    Do you think they just had a feeling about something?Maybe we do get a warning but some of us just don't react on it.

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    #33
    Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    i don't know if anybody already suggested this but... if you really want to know an ancient description of what the after-life is supposed to be like read The Tibetan Book of the Dead, it describes in full-detail the entire process of the cycle of life, and how to get out of the cycle of rebirth. For a more contemporary viewpoint of heaven, hell, and purgatory (for lost souls) read the Divine Comedy. Very vivid imagery of heaven, hell, etc etc...

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    #34
    Senior Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    Sometime's i just feel like killing myself just to see where i'll end up. Wherever i would end up it would be a hell lot better than where i am now

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    #35
    Senior Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    Quote Originally Posted by CrAzYpOtHeAd
    Sometime's i just feel like killing myself just to see where i'll end up. Wherever i would end up it would be a hell lot better than where i am now
    Reminded me of flatliners where those students want to experience life after death.Damn good movie and if you have'nt seen it then do so :thumbsup:

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    #36
    Senior Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenBeauty
    Reminded me of flatliners where those students want to experience life after death.Damn good movie and if you have'nt seen it then do so :thumbsup:
    Nope, hav'nt seen it. I'll check it out Mybe try and find a torrent for it

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    #37
    Senior Member

    I know what you see when you're dead

    Woody Allen quote, "I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens".

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