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[smokesalot]

way to close for mh but floros dont give off heat and the spectrum of light is better if the plant is as close as possable i'm useing a 125 watt envirolite cfl and 4 four foot floro tubes if you dont keep floros close to your plants they will stretch to the light and be weak and stringy closer lights will also increase yeild and give you better buds and stronger plants at least thats what works for me good luck hope this helps

[John Doe]

no no I knew that... But i thought that because the clones had no roots yet maybe it could be bad for them thanks though

[justaseed]

i used to use very small cuttings 2" or so and found they root allot faster than larger ones. also i kept my bubbler in my vegg chamber about 24" from the 8 4ft flouros any closer and the leaves start to yellow long before any rooting begins. you don't want to much light 'cause the cutting will try to grow instead of produce roots and this will cause it to sap all the nutrients from the leaves and that's why they yellow and die before rooting. at least that is how i understand it. btw 1 airstone could work, just put a cutting in and see if it lives to make sure. i'm not growing currently for security reasons(facing felony charges) but i still love to visit these forums and offer any help that i can.

[John Doe]

Yeah Im just exiting a rehab program for getting popped with vicodin.. with out a script.... one of the lamest charges ever.. I had to do 15 classes.. once a week... and then I have to "stay out of police ontact"for 14 more months...

BTW what did you use for your scrog?

[John Doe]

Havnt updated in awhile heres some pics from the night before I 12/12'd

[turtle420]

Havnt updated in awhile heres some pics from the night before I 12/12'd

Hello John,

I hadn't seen this thread before.
Nice looking plants.
How did you keep them so low? Did you top/FIM?

Your bubbler cloner looks just like the one I built!

Cool man, peace out,

-turtle420
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[John Doe]

If your refering to the 2 smaller plants... They were both given to me.. supposedly one is kush and one is "bullhorn"
Both these plants are tripping me out.
the kush has 3 leaf water leafs... and just grows so crazy... I never topped either of these 2 plants.. how ever Im not sure if the other guy did.. if they werent topped they sure grow wierd..
the "bullhorn" plant.. now this one is CRAZY CRAZY, it has some single blade leaves. then all the rest are 3 blades.... and... the plant is dark however all the new growth is a brighter green. This one also just grows so wierd...

I cloned both of them twice... the bullhorn one just showed roots today..
I was wondering what is the longest I can leave them in the bubbler with out any harm? because Im short on soil and I wont have money for a nother week or so.

Oh.. the bigger plant.. Was also given to me however it was from seed and I basically grew it from scratch.. with reallly no nutes at all up intill recently... however it was used with miracle gro potting soil.... and that plant has grown awesomely. I cloned it about 8 times or so Im giving a few to a close friend and only plan to keep a few of em..
Thanks for reading though turtle and nice to meet you too

[Jdog7000]

That wierd looking plant looks like some clones I have. They were cloned after starting there flower cycle. And put back into veg. They started growing just like that, with 1-3 leaf fan leaves. They are almost done now...look.

[John Doe]

See yeah thats what I think happened here too... The guy cloned em and had em in 12/12 then gave em to me.. I put em outside for awhile till my grow room was rdy.. but they were already all funky when he gave them to me.. the "bullhorn" one has these calax's with trics on them but no pistils