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[John Doe]

Okai this is my 1st post here, and this will be my 3rd grow.
My 1st two grows were out door.Now is my try for indoor.
However, I have ehh 4 plants.... all were given to me.. 3 came from one friend and one from another... I have one big plant that came from seen and that im taking all my clones from... (which im having trouble with might i add but ill talk about that later). Now... there is two supposed kush plants in one pot... that he gave me, these were clones, and are growing really sparce. The fourth plant is supposedly "bullhorn" I have never heard of this strain nor do I know anything about it. now this plant is one of the WIERDEST I have ever seen... Im not sure if its the strain, or if its from stress but, the plant is basically all 3 blade and single blade leaves. Now what is really tripping me out is that there are what I believe are pistols... with crystals on them.... which have not opened up.It almost scared me to believing it was a hermie and, well could be but I wont really know till my room is ready for my HPS

I am vegging on 3 floros 2 are 4 footers and i have a 30 watt 3 footer i just added in today, I will be finishing up my grow room sometime this week how ever Id like to hurry and get the clones from my bigger plant now, I have taken 4 so far the 1st too seemed to fail it wilted like crazy. Then I read somewhere about taking my clone, leaving it in a cup of water for 24 hours. Put it in my rockwool cubes which arnt even rockwoll might I add after and put them in shade... So I tried it it seemed to work a bit better or w.e.
But I wasnt satisfied so I talked to the guy at the hydro store and he said just to mist them and put them under the lights 12 inchs from the lights.. this seemed better. By now the other two clones look so wilted I was pissed the clones were a bit long so I decided to cut the stem in half rid of some leaves and try again with them. they actually seem to have been saved But time will tell.
I have been up all night on this site and im loving it Id like to try the scrog method when its time to flower.
Heres how my grow room will sorta work.. I will have my clones and veg under my floros and hopefully some cfl's maybe some time soon this will all be in my closet which is ahh 4X2X6 maybe....
and Im going to close the closet off since right now there is no doors and then im going to put up 3 walls for my flowering room which will be hmmm around 6X6 or so. Ill be flowering using a 400w HPS
I have been learning about the son agro bulb and hortiflux or somthing like that I was wondering if I got one of those bulbs could I use it for veg instead of the floros? cuz im just not happy with the floros right now. ehh
enough of my bad typing and lazy puntuation heres a few pics.

also please feel free to help out with my sick kush plant... Oh and BTW
Since i have gotten the plants I havnt gave them any nutes (I know I know) but i have been so broke its not even funny I just got some seaweed extract and will used it today Ill be going back to the hydro store soon hopefully today

John Doe Reviewed by John Doe on 04-13-2006. New to Cannabis.com Okai this is my 1st post here, and this will be my 3rd grow. My 1st two grows were out door.Now is my try for indoor. However, I have ehh 4 plants.... all were given to me.. 3 came from one friend and one from another... I have one big plant that came from seen and that im taking all my clones from... (which im having trouble with might i add but ill talk about that later). Now... there is two supposed kush plants in one pot... that he gave me, these were clones, and are growing really Rating: 5

[John Doe]

nearly 30 views and not a single post lol
BUUUMP

[John Doe]

Heres more pics I had some questions as well Im no pro but have a fair knowledge of how to grow.
Anyways.. the 1st few pics are of my clones.. this is my 1st indoor grow.. and also my 1st attempt to clone(bare with me).tje next pic is of my "bullhorn" clone and this plant is a complete trip it has 3 blade and single blade leaves throughout the whole plant... then to top it of.. It has what I believe are stigmas... with crystals clearly all over them... how ever there is no pistols.. or hairs... coming from them..
Now... if this is not a hermi.. which it doesnt really look like it is.. there is only one logical explination I can think of...
Is that my friend gave me the plants when he already started 12/12 cycle... Me not knowing had them outside for awhile.. then when i brought them in I put them on 18/6
Any help is greatly apprciated
Oh and also can anyone help me out with the last pic? that is also the "bullhorn"

Ps sorry for the triple post.. it wouldnt let me edit and add pics to the second post

[John Doe]

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[justaseed]

that last plant just looks deformed to me. i would ditch it and use the others.

for cloning, rockwool is not a good choice for beginners, as it is not very forgiving if you make mistakes. the hands down best/easiest way to clone imo is a bubble cloner. they can be made for $10-20 and there is no need for rooting hormones, just water!

this is my old thread. post 12 starts a howto on building a bubbler(with pics)
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326

[John Doe]

Yeah man I read your whole thread I just bought everything for the bubbler before i even read this.. and Id really like to keep in touch with you to maybe help me with the scrog...

[graph]

Hey, I'm not an expert but that looks like nute burn on the last pic. Do you spray your leaves with nutes? If so, back off a bit because you may be burning them.

I'm not exactly sure but I think you may have stressed the light cycle enough to turn them hermie...

Hopefully someone more experienced can drop in here and correct me if I'm wrong.

[John Doe]

well in all honesty... I havnt even given my ladies any ferts since I got em... up untill recently.. so the clones were already like that from the guy that gave them to me but I just bought Fox farm Grow big and seaweed extract... as well as fox farm bloom for later... Im just so broke right now its hard to do it all right.. so after the small yield the 2nd one will be much better I assure you this especially since I will be actually GROWING them myself.. and ill be able to top them well... the big one... I actually pretty much grew from start to finish.. it was my friends plant but I topped it a few times then he couldnt have it anymore so I took over.

Edit: Oh I just hooked up my bubbler.. and the idiot I am I only got one airstone... and its a 12 inch... so only like half of it is bubbling is this normal or should i get a 6 incher instead tomorrow ill go and buy another 12 most likely unless you guys inform me other wise 1st

[smokesalot]

i clone and use clf's and 4ft floro tubes it might help if you use 6 inch cuttings and keep the lights 2 inchs above the plant tops floros run cool and need to be kept close to your plants to be most effictive
good luck

[John Doe]

are you serious.. the guy at the hyrdro said 12 inchs.. maybe he assumed i had a MH.. but still that would be to close for a mh for a clone wouldnt it?
eh I have a bubbler now and am testing 3 clones tonight.
Hope they are winners this time