Philosophy

[PureEvil760]

Bugged out shit right there

[CocaCola]

I think you guys are looking into it too much... and taking philosophy too literally.

[poorprincess]

this is irrelevent and unhelpfull but theres a comic book out there called "action philosophers" which tells the life stories and some basic philosophy of lots of philosophers. It's 100% accurate and it's funny as hell.

[Guest]

so then let us talk some philosophy shall we?

...shall we begin with ontological arguments (proving the existence of God)?

[Polymirize]

Ok then.

The world is a web of inter-relation between causes and effects. Since we believe our everyday sense of casuality holds (don't we?) then there must have been a First Cause to start the chain of events in motion.

Are you all with me so far?

Surprise, the First Cause is God.

Dispute at will.

[mrdevious]

Ok then.

The world is a web of inter-relation between causes and effects. Since we believe our everyday sense of casuality holds (don't we?) then there must have been a First Cause to start the chain of events in motion.

Are you all with me so far?

Surprise, the First Cause is God.

Dispute at will.

The first cause is the first cause, that's all we know. "God" fits nicely as the first cause, but I can potentially conceptualize any being, event, or natural phenomenon as being the first cause. Not to mention the problem of what the first cause of god is, and if he was always there, then so could be the universe. I hold to the Buddhist philosophy (and part of quantum mechanics) that what we consider reality and non reality, are not actaully separate things. Essentially, all matter and energy is only force fields, all forcefields and non-forcefields are parts of space-time. Even gravity is merely a bend in spacetime caused the existence of "matter", which is an area of bent space-time that bends the rest of it around the matter to a lesser degree.

[sm0k1t]

I think in a long run of ages that we , the human race, are gods and maybe in 1000000 years monkeys will be gods if they obtain reason wich some species of monkeys actually do. Untill all of what we can learn on this planet, this solar system and why not the universe is known we might be ourselves creating life.

But not a God like the all mighty perfect God, Jah or whatever other names other religions name them. Just gods that can create and manipulate, in a mathematical precision, life.

I really dont know the reason why we exist and why we have a conscience of all this infinity now but what I do know is that the evolution of species tend to upgrade all forms wether its physical, physiological or psychological and its seems that evolution is coded somewhere, in a living cell, organism or whatever is biologicaly alive or exist naturally. Of course we are not there yet but thank God for genetics and our inspiration and creativity =)

and cannabis of course =D
peace :rasta:

[Guest]

If we accept God as being the first cause, then God must be a Necessary Being. Otherwise we are stuck in infinite chains of cause and effect.



..sighs... Even if we do accept the concept of a Necessary Being it is still tough to deal with infinite chains.

[WalkaWalka]

Is philosophy the study of how you think and why you think that way or is it the study of what you beleave and why you beleave it.

[Polymirize]

Ideally (ha ha!) philosophy is a motion, a process and not a product.

If philosophy is done without an open mind, then it's simply the creation of rhetoric in favor of x or y.

I'm not a big proponent of the God theory myself. I think that Augustine for example has something worthwhile with his "first cause" arguments, but don't follow him on the conclusion that this cause is the equivalent of the Christian God.

Perhaps to get away from doctrinal issues we should refer to this entity simply as the "being-in-itself-for-itself"

Devious, have you ever looked into hermetic law? (as philosophy...)