Yeah, out of all the experiences I read about salvia I never really seen a good one...a few but there are more bad experiences than good ones (thats I've read and watched). Google video has a few salvia trips and man lol, those are enough to make me not wanna try it, they are all brain dead and have no idea whats going on, foaming at the mouth and just freakin out. Not as bad as I'm making it seem but it's pretty disturbing.