Well guys the noob community is waitting to get their hands in some pro advice so start typping (i surelly am)...Tks 4 the link on the bulbs TIR, and as i told u those fluros are 18000k, they are used for aquariums and plant growing (i went back to the store and read the whole specs ), and they put out about 2200 lumens (20w bulb), so what do u recon???do u think it might work well for veg stage????