my first order (with the optional $10 Fast shipping) did a turnaround to northern California in about 16 days, if I remember right ... the second order (a month ago) only took 8 days turnaround ... theyre a good bunch of people, Brad says they try to get orders out the same day they receive them ... I found them on some long-lost review of seed merchants , they had a 4-star rating, and a comment as to their friendliness and reliability ... I used International Money Orders from the USPS, and just left them blank ... I almost ordered the Apollo 11, too ... it sounds yummy ... :smokin: