just got out the tape measure, theyre 22", from soil to tops, about the same in diameter, 72 days since germination, and lost a LOT of growth for the first couple of weeks, due to Pythium Wilt (killed 10 out of 15 seedlings, remaining seedlings developed into 4 females, one male) only the second male plant I have gotten in many years of amateur growing ... I used 'Miracid' 30-10-10 during veg, ... then, a week before switching to flower cycle, I took away the nitrogen, and started using "Earth Juice" brand nutes: 'Bloom' 0-3-1 at every watering, 'MicroBlast' micronutrients every 2 weeks, and 'Catalyst' 2 weeks ... I have used 'SuperThrive' throughout this grow, for the first time ... I again say, I think SuperThrive is a highly hyped, highly over-rated, product, that does no harm, and if you want to use it, hey, go for it ... :smokin: