those opposing illegal immigration... consider this:

[Fengzi]

any of the clauses in the definition for a convict apply.....

illegal aliens.....
1. don't pay income tax
2. don't pay medicare
3. don't pay medical insurance
4. use tax funded roads, sidewalks, fire departments ect ect ect ect ect
5. use free medical care at free clinics at tax PAYER expense


1+2+3+4+5 = illegal aliens are a drain on the standard of living of legal residents living in the USA, becuse less tax money can go to pay gov't employees and also existing legal residents must be overtaxed to compensate

Not to mention our evergrowing deficit cannot possibly be getting much help from aliens either

Actually the definition of a convict is "one who has been convicted". So until a person has been caught for a crime, tried, and found guilty they can not be a convict. Therefore only a small percentage of illegals could be considerd a convict.

[grinthenbearit]

Actually the definition of a convict is "one who has been convicted". So until a person has been caught for a crime, tried, and found guilty they can not be a convict. Therefore only a small percentage of illegals could be considerd a convict.

2. To show or declare to be blameworthy; condemn: His remarks convicted him of a lack of sensitivity.

No green card, no US I.D. or cannot even prove any other way to be a legal resident equals open and shut case to anybody with an intellect "worth a bowl of beans".

[Shelbay]

Do you not think though that with the good comes the bad? That is also something I stay curious about..how many were convicted of violent crimes in Mexico and then "sent" here? Not trying to argue but haven't seen much on that subject....just the results after one of them get in trouble here.

[Psycho4Bud]

Do you not think though that with the good comes the bad? That is also something I stay curious about..how many were convicted of violent crimes in Mexico and then "sent" here? Not trying to argue but haven't seen much on that subject....just the results after one of them get in trouble here.

That happened with Cuba...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C1A961948260

[Fengzi]

Yep, the Mariel boatlift. I was living in Florida at the time and can remeber this was a huge deal down there.

Wasn't Scarface supposed to be one of the Mariel baot people??

I wouldn't doubt there are cases of this happening but I would think it would be a small percentage of those coming across. There's a Home Depot near where I work and I drive by a bunch of these guys (assumed illegals) every day. Yes, they may be here illegally but they are some of the hardest working people you will ever see. Apart from the fact that they entered illegally I would doubt any have committed any other crime in their life.

[Shelbay]

Of course they work hard..and of course the majority is cash and being sent back to Mexico..and the majority I have spoken with (not assumed but very illegal) only come here to work and support others back home. There are many more illegals than legal? Not really sure on that..just speaking from experience of my interaction with them..which by the way is mainly battered women that are here illegally with american born children and feel they have to stay where they are just because they are illegal...so no I don't see this from just one "view"..I just think they should be able to become true Americans because no matter how it is prettied up...they came here breaking the law..and it will continue to hold them back from greater things than just picking fruit or putting a roof on a house..which I mean no disrespect toward manual labor..but there are others just like any heritage that have gifted people that their gifts are being wasted because of one thing..they are illegal..and speak barely comprehensible english. The big "debate" here today was that poor uneducated black men are losing out because they say they are forced to compete with illegal immigrants for jobs...I do look forward to your posts on this now..oh..and yes scarface was based on that immigration..wasn't sure so I just had to look it up.

[friendowl]

uneducated black men have to much pride to get dirty and work hard all day every day.

it seems that they would rather slang dope,pimp ho's or just hook up with
a fat ugly girl that will take care of her nigga

[rhino44]

lmao

[xblackdogx]

lmao

friendowl, always hitting the nail on the head in some cases.

[beachguy in thongs]

uneducated black men have to much pride to get dirty and work hard all day every day.

it seems that they would rather slang dope,pimp ho's or just hook up with
a fat ugly girl that will take care of her nigga

All the uneducated black men, I know, are working pretty hard, and I don't know how much education it takes to become a police officer, I know you don't need a college degree.

An educated black man is my herbal connection.