Sorry about the double post..but I didn't edit in time. I wanted to add that I appreciate you sharing about your wifes frustrations in translating sometimes...that is why I originally posted on this thread...and when I said forced to learn it..some of them are "set in their ways" and have had younger members of the family have to do the teaching..they force them to listen and respond in english. Important information can be lost in translation..sort of like playing the "gossip" game..you take like ten people,sit them in chairs,whisper something in the first ones ear...they repeat in to the next one..and by the time it gets repeated at the end of the line..its nothing like what was originally said.